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Rob Spiegel
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Re: Amost depressing slideshow.
Rob Spiegel   7/8/2014 10:13:11 AM
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Hi William K, here's the info you're looking for:

http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes172071.htm

 

ccrider98
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Re: Amost depressing slideshow.
ccrider98   7/6/2014 9:54:36 PM
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I agree.  I am also an engineer with a background in computer engineering and I don't see these numbers in SE Michigan.  So, there is a lot of detail missing to get a full understanding behind the numbers.

William K.
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Amost depressing slideshow.
William K.   7/5/2014 12:28:19 PM
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If the published results are true, this is a horribly depressing presentation. Here in southeastern Michigan controls engineers have not been getting nearly that much. And that is with a full degree in electrical/electronics engineering, the ability to do mechanical, hydraulic, and pneumatic system designs, and a good talent for customer relations.

So a breakdown by states could make the data a lot more useful and informative, and possibly demanding a copy of tax returns or W2 forms to verify the claimed incomes. 

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Re: Fun for cash
Charles Murray   7/1/2014 6:30:32 PM
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Great quote, wardljc. I wasn't aware that Mulally had said it, but it's not surprising at all. He's one of our favorite engineers here at Design News, having been our Engineer of the Year in 1996.

http://www.designnews.com/document.asp?doc_id=208775

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bobjengr   7/1/2014 5:11:05 PM
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Excellent slides Rob.  It's good to see the engineering profession is somewhat insulated from economic conditions and particular skill sets will remain valuable over the next decade.  One take-a-way from your slides seem to indicate that contract and/or consulting fields should be more in demand than ever.  I have an engineering consulting firm and notice that more and more companies wish to employ contract engineers rather than have overhead numbers on their books.  When the project is over, we go home.  I suspect this will be a continuing trend in this decade also.    I was very surprised with the 62% projected growth rate of biomedical engineering.  This is a very exciting field and hopefully will continue to attract the best and brightest engineers in the near future.  

JimT@Future-Product-Innovations
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Re: Engineering still a good place to be
JimT@Future-Product-Innovations   7/1/2014 3:21:51 PM
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I have a friend who was a Nuclear Engineer at a reactor in South Florida; a skill he gained from his 20 years in the US Navy, as a Chief on a Nuclear Submarine. When I recently asked him why he was no longer working there, and instead is now an operations manager at a small HVAC company, to stared somberly at me, and said, "You just cannot imagine the stress".

Rob Spiegel
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Re: More detailed info for those actually using this ...
Rob Spiegel   7/1/2014 2:00:57 PM
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Thanks for the comment, Thinking J. Most (if not all) of the data you mention here actually is available from the BLS: http://www.engineersguideusa.com/Careers/engineer_career_outlook.htm

Including it in the slide show would have made the presentation too much.

Thinking_J
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More detailed info for those actually using this ...
Thinking_J   7/1/2014 1:12:44 PM
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Most people viewing the presented info will see two things for each engineering group:

Median wage (not average)

Top wages (sometimes defined - not always- as top 10%)

What is lost .. the observation that 1/2 of the engineers in each of these categories will be making less than the Median wage. With no indication of the minimum.

Young people can often be mis-lead with this kind of information.

- Where the work is (Northeasten seaboard, South Dakota, ?)

- The life style required of the work (many of these "engineering" categories require being constantly "on the road" / "in the field"....having any consistent time with your children nearly impossible.

- to get top money requires becoming engineering management.

- reflect the years of experience of the group. (median age of the group?)

All have dramatic impact on wage scale for the work being performed.

These often impact quality of life as much as the work.

I often find young people ignoring these very important aspects of their choices - only to be very un-happy later.

Life choices are rarely simple. And career choices are among the toughest.

wardljc
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Re: Fun for cash
wardljc   7/1/2014 9:56:34 AM
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"Engineers are the source of all wealth creation" -- Alan Mulally

wardljc
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Re: Fun for cash
wardljc   7/1/2014 9:32:15 AM
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"Engineers are the source of all wealth creation" -- Alan Mulally

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