Just watch how fast it all goes. Intersting field (IOT IIOT) developing, again to fast. It's the reason most can't keep up with all the evolution of digital integration into society. As for a new vehicle, Fred Flintstone had a rather good one.
Thanks Mr Lord for presentation, to all, enjoyable subject(s).
I like and dislike the idea of a [screwdriver] having levels of features. What to do when the battery dies or it gets hacked? On the other hand, with such devices we could evolve to having universal devices that are used for whatever purpose comes at that moment.
If corporate has it's way things you can't even dream of will have some digital in it. They take it to far. The user has to make a choice. a nice magnetic field could always put the infringing component to sleep though
What's unclear is what will come AFTER phones. Seems like we will have personal computing networking devices from now on. Maybe the person's own network with something that comes after Google Glass. A person walking down the street could have the UI integrates within him to control what he encounters.
@cpu: Good point. Letting smartphones provide whatever UI you need (alla Nest) may be very practical in many situations. Of course that's not to say you can't integrate some basic controls into the system.
@cpu - I'm not thinking of a screw driver with a touch screen, I'm thinking of a screw driver that looks and works like your grandfather's screw driver, but transparently delivers some new, value-added service (whatever that may be, this is just hypothetical).
@ Don Pancoe @ CJLord Looking from another direction, more devices, cheaper devices, devices in everything... maybe we don't really want a UI in every device. The smartphone may actually become the ubiquitous user interface replacing all else.
medical informatics - Not very well thought out. Just ordered from the top. Really should take a step back and look into the future to evaluate what really nneds to be done to "standardize" the whole system. To many players always doing thier own thing (for money).
@ Charles : I guess inter-operability and "immunity" will become major issues ! Here (Québec) many groups are warning against RF smart meters (hydro electricity) and too many RF sources (like cell phone towers, etc.) ; many Ethernet-protocole devices sharing a same network could 'in theory' mis-behave ! Many RF devices would probably raisae the noise floor level in (RF) environments, so RF immunity but also 'functionality immunity' with so many radios listening for data ! Anarchy ?? future IEEE standards ?
I think embeded systems will be a huge part of the IoT. We are still in the "do everything with your iPhone!" stage, but people will start to realize a smart phone is not the best user interface for a lot of things. Embedding technology, smartly, in traditional devices is the next phase.
Most Industrial robot code is proprietory, your communication is through a user interface (limited), it may do but for saftey you cannot get to the main program. You may be working with Make type robots, that's a different story
@cghaba - I was wondering same thing. Value will almost certainly be found in cross-referencing data from seemingly unrelated sources, but each industry has its own protocol. Even a single field such as "medicine" has many incompatible systems.
Charles, for the moment there are some well defined areas where IoT applications are on their own way of development (specific platforms, protocols and standards). What is your opinion on the integration of IoT applications from different fields (ex. health monitoring and automotive)?
There are a few questions about where M2M, Industry 4, and IIoT fit in. They do, depending on who you talk to. They all express the same concept and are different takes on the same basic function, although IIoT is more "global" in reach as it includes some human and making all protocols work together. I4 and M2M are more limited as to talking between two autonomous nodes.
We still need some better standards! IEEE IoT Task Force will be a big help here.
A prime example of the smart grid is the agrucultural industry's development of ISO 11783 the ISOBUS standard which allows any tractor and implement equipped with that technology to talk to each other. The tractor may control the implement or vice versa so that the farmer has complete control of which process he is controlling at the time. The industry has gone to "Plugfests" which are test meetings where each manufacturer's application software and hardware is tested in a common source to assure the systems work together.
This is part of the larger farm management software being developed to use the data in the individual processes to develop knowledge for the entire system management.
I guess that I just have to research for myself how I can construct an IP/TCP stack protocol that my Android can invoke to speak to my robot. This shouldn't be a big deal, after all. It's been public knowledge for at least twenty years.
But I'm slow.
I just thought that you'd show me how to hook it up.
Thank you. (And I love your N. Carolinian accent. It reminds me not only of a friend, but also of a I-wanted-her-to-be a girlfriend. And that was long ago. And you ain't her....)
Exploring home security control, and deer (pest) warding via wireless controls. Want to push that into house status monitoring and control (e.g. sump pump failure, power failure, text alerts, etc, etc).
the home energy management killer app is to trade kilowatts and negawatts in realtime -- but only when customers see realtime prices. when power prices get to $1000/mwh, i'll turn off my electric hot water heater, and turn down my a/c -- but only if you pay me the incremental/decremental price
What technology stack should we use to organize and analyze the Big Data from IOT. Yes, some of this is structured data such as IIOT data, but other data such as healt data is unstructured. Will you discuss this?
@Robandee, my experience is that some utility companies are hostile to grid connection of solar and wind generation. They try to make it hard on you. Some utilities are cooperative and some are hostile.
Smart grid - is being worked on but the rebuild of our electrical infrastructure seems to be just a political carrot. If this were China it would have been rebuilt already. No real energy policy or motivation to just do it.
Elster, L+G, and Itron are working on an IPv6/6LoWPAN based networking stack over sub-GHz in the Neighborhood Area Network (NAN) Working Group. Wi-Sun is doing the same in the Japan centric consortium for NAN networks.
You might add connections to the weather sensing network to your Smart Grid slide: local short term weather forecasts (temperature, wind condidtions) are critical to power dispatch decisions with renewables as part of the generation mix...
Highway assest management, sensors, cameras, lighting control, etc. Seems like it does not totally work as eveyrone is sitting at a red light, standing still on the Xway - more carbon build up, more tax. Needs some help.
I made some university profs uncomfortable when I described a vision application I worked on because they were all working on black projects doing exactly the same thing. I never worked on any black projects.
Not exactly asset management, but another area is the new farming systems management approach which manages all the inputs for crop growth and applications so that a farmer has complete knowledge of his crop process.
LONWorks has been a common standard for passenger rail vehicle control sytsems (doors, propulsion, diagnostics etc.), but Industrial Ethernet is gaining grounds. Just need provision for dust, vibration in connectors, e.g. M12 connectors.
No matter what the phisical transport layer is, all the systems I have worked with used alpha-numeric ascii characters as the data within the message. Very few used raw binary such as floating point format.
Many years ago I helped design portions of the "SMART HOUSE" protocols (that was a trademarked phrase at the time but has been defunct for years). Also worked on DeviceNet and ControlNet and CAN but those aren't really building automation oriented. Currently doing mostly BTLE and Wi-Fi.
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