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far911
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Re: Complete demo of biomaterials
far911   3/31/2014 11:44:55 PM
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What make you think that.

William K.
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William K.   3/31/2014 7:49:37 PM
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I do wonder about the material burning, and at what temperature it starts burning. Combustion is a very big concern with automotive plastics, and this one may not pass that test. None of my experiences with plastics in cars have been what I would call "good", so pardon me for being just a bit skepticle. And one more concern is about how a biodiesel spill will affrect the bioplastic body panels. Is there any information about that?

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NadineJ   3/31/2014 6:50:48 PM
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That's too bad.  There's an opportunity for ambient scenting that could make the cars really stand out.

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Jerry dycus   3/31/2014 1:45:53 PM
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While always happy about new materials, bioplastics even in cars isn't new.   The epoxies I use are mostly peanut oil or other fat.

Ford used bioplastics and hemp for the Model T doors, etc and was run on 90/10% ethanol/water also known as moonshine so farmers could make their own fuel.

Hemp fiber likely will be a big biomaterial as once it gets legal/going because it;'s so cheap, why Dupont had it made illegal in the first place because it competed too well with his new synthethic rayon, nylon, etc.

It'll also be big in biofuel, building, fedstock materiall as grows so fast with little input.  the seed oil is far too valuable as such a fine oil similar to Sperm Whale oil that still hasn't found a better replacement for lubes, etc.  But cosmetics companies pay $10/gal so they het most of it now.

Bioplastics, fuels, chemicals will be a good part of the future as oil, coal and NG in 20-30 yrs will be too expensive to burn.  Luckily there are many other sources like bio products.

 

 

 

 

 

Pubudu
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Pubudu   3/31/2014 1:44:48 PM
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This is great news for here,
Any way what will be the market value of this model? Is it competitive enough to compete in the market?

Ann R. Thryft
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Ann R. Thryft   3/31/2014 11:13:02 AM
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The new car smell is probably the same as before. These days, bioplastics for commercial use usually are formulated to look and smell like petro-based plastics.



Ann R. Thryft
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Ann R. Thryft   3/31/2014 11:12:13 AM
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far911, do you work for one of the UPM companies?

irishmuse
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irishmuse   3/31/2014 10:57:01 AM
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The thermoformable plywood like material is not really anything new.  VanDresser in Fostoria Ohio has been making interior body panels from a thermoformable wood product using wood fiber, a small amount of recycled textile fibers, and a heat flowable bonding agent for years.

The product is made into a formable sheet that can be stamped with a hot press and allows areas of variable density.

When petrolium prices are up, it does really well, when they are down, not so well.

irishmuse
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irishmuse   3/31/2014 10:57:01 AM
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The thermoformable plywood like material is not really anything new.  VanDresser in Fostoria Ohio has been making interior body panels from a thermoformable wood product using wood fiber, a small amount of recycled textile fibers, and a heat flowable bonding agent for years.

The product is made into a formable sheet that can be stamped with a hot press and allows areas of variable density.

When petrolium prices are up, it does really well, when they are down, not so well.

a2
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a2   3/31/2014 5:26:15 AM
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@Nadine: What about the fuel consumption of this particular vehicle ?  

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