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LetoAtreidesII
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Is it worth it????
LetoAtreidesII   2/27/2014 11:38:30 AM
Hybrids are by far the best answer for an alt vechile, as you can get a hybrid and still go anywere.   It doe not have to be a second vechile like so many of the pure EV's are.  But again I must ask were is the a payoff?

Quck calulation 16mi commute each way = 32 miles max of full new battery.  This would save a user (.8 Gal a day over a 40MPG ICE) at 3.50$/Gal that is 14$ a week or 728$ a year.  That is leaving out electric cost.  Now of that 728$ savings (again ignoring electric cost)  You have to cover your (extra interest paid  or if you paid outright lost of income from extra $ spent)~200%,  Higher year auto insurance ~150$, higher for those younger lower as you get older.

so now you actually only saving 378$/yr (again excluding electic) and you still have not accounted for the extra cost of vechile.  so assuming 8K extra cost (low) and you get back 2K of it (high) even to have saved that 6K your real break even point is 10-12 yrs.

 

ChriSharek
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Re: What a joke!
ChriSharek   2/27/2014 11:23:08 AM
boy you sure showed me! All that typing and you said nothing. I hate to remind you but you partially paid for my vehicle. Thanks again.

greg_hanson
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Re: What a joke!
greg_hanson   2/27/2014 11:00:17 AM
what this car provides shoppers who are considering getting into this market segment is a classy, higher-quality alternative to your G(overnment) M(otors) econovolt. i would think that someone driving around in a car that was birthed with copious amounts of government funding (at a HUGE loss to we taxpayers) would be s-l-o-w to be so critical of others, thus bringing unnecessary attention to himself. go figure?

ChriSharek
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What a joke!
ChriSharek   2/27/2014 10:16:07 AM
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So, this is a 3 year newer car (than my 2011 Volt), due to its battery size its NOT eligible for the $7,500 tax credit, AND it only goes 31 miles on a charge, AND has less torque? Not sure how this can be "head to head" with the Volt - even my 3 year old one!

Look, I'm a massive plug-in proponent, especially the extended range type vehicle.  However, this car doesn't advance the industry AT ALL.  If anything it's a detriment to this market segment.   I trust once the facts are presented, the demand for this vehicle will allow it to fail as it should die a quick death.

NadineJ
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Re: CAFE anyone
NadineJ   2/27/2014 4:58:21 AM
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Nice article.  This is a good addition from VW.  I'm one of those people who typically drives about 15miles to work.  THere are charging stations at the office too. 

Personally, I'd rather see the VW Up! come to the US.  But, I'm looking forward to the Jetta Hybrid.

Charles Murray
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Re: CAFE anyone
Charles Murray   2/26/2014 10:25:05 PM
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It's hard to say whether you could come close to this mileage by using a small and sophisticated ICE, naperlou. My best answer to that is, yes, you could if you burned gasoline all the time and never bothered to recharge the battery. But if you're one of those people who drives ten miles to work, then drives ten miles back, and then recharges EVERY night, you can get virtually infinite gas mileage with this car.

naperlou
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CAFE anyone
naperlou   2/26/2014 11:20:12 AM
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Cap'n, as has been dicuscced in other posts, the setting of standards is a key to getting the best results out of the car companies.  One good trend I have noted, which I first noticed from Ford, was the use of existing vehicle frameworks for hybrid and electric cars.  The Prius is a unique design.  It is small and very aerodynamic.  I would bet that you could come fairly close to the fuel economy with a small and sophisticated ICE on the highway.  On the other hand, being small and aerodynamic definately limits it's appeal and market penetration.

This new Golf takes a proven popular design and increases its fuel efficiency.  You also show a GTe all electric version.  This certianly helps with acceptance. 



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