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Cadman-LT
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Re: 4 Banger
Cadman-LT   3/14/2014 9:21:46 PM
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Elizabeth, my buddy just bought a 2008 GT. It looks brand new inside, out, engine, everything. He is a Mustang guy like me. He also just got done restoring a 67' fastback. Cherry red, 390. The GT is "fast", but that 390 is "scary fast"...lol

Cadman-LT
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Re: 4 Banger
Cadman-LT   3/14/2014 9:15:17 PM
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Elizabeth, no that's pretty much what I meant. The classics are classics for a reason. You don't see any new car becoming a classic...not really. It just doesn't happen anymore. I doubt anyone in 2030 will restore a 2013 Mustang. 

Kevslatvin
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Re: turbo? or super? charger....
Kevslatvin   2/10/2014 2:51:32 PM
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Mazda used a twin scroll turbo whay back in the 80's on the 1987 Rx7.

http://www.mazda.com/mazdaspirit/rotary/story/p5.html

Mazda's system may be different then current twin scroll turbos but the basic premise is the same.

Charles Murray
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Re: NEW MUSTANG TECHNOLOGY
Charles Murray   2/8/2014 4:35:34 PM
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I definitely agree with your take on MyColor, BobJengr. It's a great technology that really enhances the Mustang's interior. Your experience with the rental car is interesting, largely because the whole idea of MyColor is to be able to customize it. I defintely would not want a bright red light behind the gauges. That sounds unpleasant.

bobjengr
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NEW MUSTANG TECHNOLOGY
bobjengr   2/8/2014 11:12:06 AM
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There is no doubt in my mind; with 9 million Mustangs sold over the life of the product, this brand CAN be described as a Great American Car.  There are others of course but as a kid growing up in the 60s Mustang and Camero were the cars to own.  I think engine technology described in this post indicates great engineering and great improvements all aimed at providing the same thrills previously delivered.  I know this is really trivial, but I like the 125 color combination possibilities for the dash.  I think that's very creative.  Several weeks ago I visited a client, rented a car from Hertz, and was very disappointed when illumination for the dash was total RED.  I don't mean a sutle red but RED and without the benefit of dimming.  ( Maybe at night I could not find the dimmer but trust me on this one--I don't think it was there. ) Great post Charles.  I look forward to Ford's commercialization of this one.  I definitely will visit my local Ford dealership.   

Charles Murray
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Re: turbo? or super? charger....
Charles Murray   2/6/2014 7:12:36 PM
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From Ford's technical information: "This is the first Ford engine to use a low-inertia twin-scroll turbocharger that provides quicker boost response while enabling lower emissions and improved efficiency." You should let Ford know that that your research shows they don't have a twin-scroll turbocharger, Thinking_J.

Thinking_J
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turbo? or super? charger....
Thinking_J   2/6/2014 6:55:35 PM
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I have noticed Media being "dumbed down" a bit when using certain terms.

Turbo charging is one of those terms. (turbo charged shavers?)

Turbo charging is a specific type of supercharging method - involving use of exhaust gas pressure to drive the compressor.

Super charging is a bit less specific - only indicates a compressor on the intake - not always mechanically driven , but generally mechanically driven.

I have never heard of a "twin scroll" (a very specific compressor design) turbo charging system... Too much mechanical mass for an exhaust gas pressure turbine to drive - without EXTREME lag.

Twin scroll supercharging? .. plenty of these around... and they should have nearly zero lag. Effectly increased displacement without increasing mechanical/frictional losses.

 

Upon further research .. the are NO twin scrolls in the new turbo charger for this car. Don't know why anyone would use this term. They apparently intend "twin scrolls" to describe the exhaust manifold coming off the turbines. Bad idea.

There is some new turbine ideas being implimented (to allow effectiveness over larger RPM range) .. effectively created a sequencial turbo charging system to minimize lag. Only difference from older dual sequ. systems? changing of nozzle size / location on a single turbine based on engine speed instead of using two (low / high speed) turbines.

 

Charles Murray
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Re: Skeptical
Charles Murray   2/5/2014 8:34:45 PM
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I don't blame you for being skeptical, John. I had the same reaction when I first heard the numbers.

JimT@Future-Product-Innovations
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Re: Skeptical
JimT@Future-Product-Innovations   2/5/2014 12:33:42 PM
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Funny you would cite the Cadillac example – When the new ATS was named 2013 Car-of-the-Year, I became infatuated with its style, features, and sticker.-price  I had to drive it!  However, one trip around the block, and I was cured; the 272HP-Turbo had too much lag & delay.  Not impressive performance.  Turbo power is just not as quick as real HP; I fell out-of-love just as quickly.

John
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Re: Skeptical
John   2/5/2014 12:06:56 PM
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I noticed Cadillac released a 4 cylinder twin turbo engine in hopes of competing with foreign sports cars.  I can't help but to wonder if Ford is trying to do the same thing with the Mustang even though the article seems to focus on enironmentally friendly aspects.  Ford did drop the Ford GT some time ago.

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