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Ann R. Thryft
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Re: GOOGLE AND BD
Ann R. Thryft   2/5/2014 12:00:11 PM
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I agree with RBPrice, although not just for battery reasons. BigDog delivering mail or stocking shelves seems like expensive, massive overkill. Not exactly an appropriate application of technology to the tasks at hand.

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GOOGLE AND BD
RBPrice   2/3/2014 4:23:16 PM
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Until someone comes up with a battery that will last all day, I don't see Big Dog wandering around NYC or Boston etc. deliverying mail all day.  Ditto, restocking shelves in the local WalMart store. The re-stocking could be done with today's technology in guided vehicles combined with a robot - at a horrendus cost.

Search and rescue, bomb disposal - pretty much already covered.  And from a military standpoint this former Marine wonders how useful they would be when encombered with armor plate to keep the bad guys from blowing them away with a single 7.62 mm round.  The American indian quickly learned that the US Calvery didn't have any armor on their horses.

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Just a natural evolution
TAZ333   2/3/2014 4:02:10 PM
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I think the view in the article is a bit paranoid. On an overall level there really isn't any difference between commercial and military robotics. It is just the application that is different. The technical advances made by BD as a military contractor will be very useful in commercial applications. Nothing different from what's been happening for hundreds of years. Just think about how often all sorts of technology developed for the military has found commercial applications. To give an example, think of the work done by BD to make a stable platform that can find it's way around obstacles while carrying a heavy load. Now think about a robot stocking grocery shelves without trampling customers. Same robot, different application.

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Re: Google
Ann R. Thryft   2/3/2014 1:08:57 PM
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taimoortariq, you echo my thoughts: is this good for BD--in my mind, I wonder if it will squelch their innovation--and how does military robot tech fit into a commercial context?

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Re: Nothing good for the rest of us, I don't think.
taimoortariq   1/31/2014 4:09:36 PM
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Lol I do agree that is definitely an over kill.

Generally, with Boston Dynamics, the motives were more defense and military related. A comercial company like google buying it, definitely makes one to question their motives.

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taimoortariq   1/31/2014 3:56:56 PM
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Boston Dynamics was doing great work, in terms of highly advanced stabilizing control systems.The company was definitely going up, to see whether it is a good thing or not, we have to wait.

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Re: Commercializing the armed forces
Pubudu   1/28/2014 11:06:48 AM
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And greatly with the help of google earth....

Ann R. Thryft
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Re: BOSTON DYNAMICS
Ann R. Thryft   1/27/2014 12:08:37 PM
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bobjengr, thanks for your feedback. I think the "paranoid" view is especially interesting when it comes from someone who actually works with robotics. I'm not so sure that's really paranoia.



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Re: Google's visions
Ann R. Thryft   1/27/2014 12:06:02 PM
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eafpres, thanks for your detailed and thoughtful comments. I agree with you about the manufacturing application not making a lot of sense competitively. Unless, of course, there's some incredible innovation that will wipe that all out and leave it in the dust. The fact that BD was a pioneer in natural movements makes me wonder about that possibility: current factory robotic tech is still pretty clumsy and awkward. Some of the pick and place machines are very, very fast but that's only with a couple movements repeated over and over. So yes, I also thought of a revved-up Baxter.
And I also thought about your #3--the sinister view. That's the one I think has people getting nervous. Good point about combining that with mail delivery and location (etc) information--yikes!

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BOSTON DYNAMICS
bobjengr   1/25/2014 11:34:04 AM
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Even the most benign intentions can fall into the wrong hands.   I agree with one comment in that Boston Dynamics has something GOOGLE feels is important to their overall goals and long-term vision.  Boston has demonstrated their ability with robotic systems as Ann has demonstrated in her posts over the past several weeks and months.  THEY ARE REALLY GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO.  The fact that their largest customer is the "FED" really makes me nervous.  (Please see NSA and millions of data points collected on a daily basis.)  We are years away from "The Rise of the Machines" but significant intrusion into the daily lives of millions is happening right now.  Boston Dynamics, GOOGLE, the FED.  To me this could become an un-holy trinity.  (Of course I've always been a little paranoid.  Just ask my granddaughters.)   I use robotic systems in my work but those are involved with automating manufacturing processes and developing work cells to provide added quality to the end result--the assembly of components. The accumulation of data from these work cells is used to calculate Six Sigma information, investigate trends and determine CpK.  We DO NOT interfer with lives.   Great post Ann and I feel your concern is right on.

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