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twk
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Another engineer
twk   12/20/2013 3:16:40 PM
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You missed Warren Livingston.  He went to work for Motorola in Scottsdale Arizona as an Electrical Engineer in 1966 as he retired from the Cowboys.  I hired him. he is a true gentleman.
Warren Livingston
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Cornerback
Personal information
Date of birth: (1938-07-05) July 5, 1938 (age 75)
Place of birth: Eufaula, Oklahoma
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College: University of Arizona
Debuted in 1961
Last played in 1966
Career history
Career NFL statistics
Games played - started 67 - 15
Interceptions 10
Fumble recoveries 6
Stats at NFL.com


Nancy Golden
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Re: Options
Nancy Golden   12/20/2013 12:25:50 PM
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jhankwitz, you make a great observation: "As the slides depict, these remarkable athletes and cheerleaders have an engineering career to fall back on which truly makes them superstars in sports."


Which also makes them excellent role models for our kids!

Nancy Golden
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Re: Surprising
Nancy Golden   12/20/2013 12:23:01 PM
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@richnass "So are we saying that cheering pays better than engineering?"

Surprisingly - much the opposite is true. Cheerleaders are paid very little and sacrifice a lot to do what they do: Average Salary


I really appreciated seeing these women breaking stereotypes and pursuing engineering careers.


ChuckMahoney
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engineers?
ChuckMahoney   12/20/2013 10:45:19 AM
Calling someone an engineer simply because they went to engineering school makes as much sense as saying all English majors are novelists. 

 

Interestingly all three cheerleaders are currently practicing engineers...that's awesome. 

mrdon
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mrdon   12/20/2013 10:16:33 AM
jhankwitz

I agree. I have two sons who play high school basketball and they're thoughts are on becoming NBA players in the future. Although they play good basketball, my wife and I always stress academics as the real focus while they're in school. As you mentioned its quite difficult to become a pro athlete because of the strong competition among players. Therefore, chosing a career as a doctor, lawyer, or engineer is easily obtainable than becoming an athlete and can provide a comfortable lifestyle as well. As the slides depict, these remarkable athletes and cheerleaders have an engineering career to fall back on which truly makes them superstars in sports.

Measurementblues
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Sports should adopt real technology
Measurementblues   12/20/2013 9:00:49 AM
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So says Ransom Stephens, see his article

Sports should adopt real technology where he argues that it's time for the NFL to give up those chains for measuring first downs.

jhankwitz
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jhankwitz   12/20/2013 8:51:11 AM
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Any student on an athletic career path would be wise to get a backup professional education.  A very small percentage makes it into pro sports due to an extremely wide variety obstacles.  There are far more positions available for engineers, doctors, accountants, and lawyers than there are professional for professional sports players.

a.saji
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Re: Surprising
a.saji   12/19/2013 11:05:20 PM
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@richnass: Wow if its so I would change my job role altogether. Shouting to a rhythm is not that difficult.  

richnass
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richnass   12/19/2013 4:52:42 PM
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So are we saying that cheering pays better than engineering?

I'm happy about the Phil McConkey reference. He was a vocal guy on the 1986 Giants that captured Super Bowl XXI (isn't it funny the things we remember?).

naperlou
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Surprising
naperlou   12/19/2013 9:14:05 AM
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Chuck, as the last slide mentions, many engineers don't fit the mold.  It is a very interesting slide show.  When I was at the University of Maryland in the 1970s I remember meeting the quarterback of the team who, I was told, was a Rhodes Scholar. 

While many of these people do not "fit the mold", I did experinece a situation where you could tell who did what based on their looks.  In the 1980s I was working on a large Army project.  There the officers did look (had a body type) that matched their profession.  The engineers we generally smaller and often wore glasses.  I wonder if that was a part of the screening process.

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