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ck_02
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Re: a trend developing
ck_02   11/12/2013 9:06:30 AM
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@naperlou, I wish to point out that there were only two incidents of this type, rather than three. The incident in Mexico involved a tree and a concrete wall. In my experience, that spells disaster for any vehicle. Cars just aren't meant to go through them. :) I'd have to say that I do agree with your point regarding the standards following rather than leading though.

Battar
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Road scrap
Battar   11/12/2013 9:04:28 AM
Seems to be the problem is not so much with the car as with all those bits of scrap metal the good citizens of the US leave scattered on the roadway. I wouldn't rate the chances of my Nissan Note coming through unscathed if I hit a lump of iron on the asphalt, either.

dmorgan
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Tesla to blame?
dmorgan   11/12/2013 9:02:15 AM
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How many gazillion Ford Pinto's were still on the road after it was determined that in a rear crash, it would explode?Maybe the driver's need to watch where they're going. I travel quite a bit and see junk on the road. Amazingly, my crew cab Silverado 4x4 has been able to avoid almost all of it. Tesla can"t/shouldn"t be held accountable for every incident. Reminds me of Edison electrocuting elephants to "prove" the danger of AC voltage.

Toaster
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Re: Uncommon Trend?
Toaster   11/12/2013 8:42:20 AM
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I agree that a simple mechanical fix would reduce the risk, However, since this is a new technology, people are afraid. (People were afraid of the automobile at first too) There wil be calls for automatic fire supression systems in the batteries.... Just wait....

Toaster
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Simple fix?
Toaster   11/12/2013 8:32:43 AM
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Sounds to me like a simple skidplate is in order. Could be made from Aluminum as in my Suburban. I have been driving for around 40 years, and the only (damaging) thing I ever hit was a piece of metal that punctured a plastic fuel tank in a Dodge. Skidplate solved that issue too.

NadineJ
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Re: Perspective
NadineJ   11/12/2013 12:57:21 AM
I just got an email from Tesla today.  It was customer testimonial about the safety of the Model S in a recent incident.  Another email from Musk is scheduled for tomorrow. 

They are quick to reply!  Other car companies can learn from that.

Charles Murray
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Perspective
Charles Murray   11/11/2013 6:25:06 PM
The numbers given last month by Elon Musk, which are very believable, are as follows: There is approximately one vehicle fire for every 20 million miles driven in the U.S., according to the Department of Transportation, compared to one fire in every hundred million miles driven by a Tesla (that figure may have changed slightly over the past month). So, as of a month ago, Tesla was five times better in this area. So it's good to maintain perspective on this. This incident is NOT an indictment of Tesla or of electric cars. As we've said many times previously, it's also good to remember that gasoline-powered vehicles carry far more energy on board than EVs, and actually have more potential to wreak havoc. Having said that, though, previous incidents (especially the Boeing incidents) have raised public concerns about lithium-ion batteries. And if these incidents could be reduced by adding an extra eighth-of-an-inch (a 50% increase) to the armor plate on the bottom of the vehicle, would that be so bad?

TJ McDermott
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Re: Statistics
TJ McDermott   11/11/2013 4:48:20 PM
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Another reader noted there are many car fires each year.

NadineJ
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Re: Statistics
NadineJ   11/11/2013 4:45:22 PM
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Are there comparable situations from the past?  My understanding is that this may be unique to Tesla.  And, specifically unique to the Model S.

TJ McDermott
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Statistics
TJ McDermott   11/11/2013 4:40:07 PM
Publishing equal statistics about Tesla vehicles vs. ICE vehicles in general, fires per 10,000 vehicles would put this in good perspective.

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