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William K.
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Re: Naming rights and finding solutions
William K.   9/2/2013 7:20:05 PM
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If you consider technical proposals a part of marketing, then I have done fairly well, for an engineer. Of course a custom equipment company does need a different kind of marketing effort, since the majority of our products would be of use to only a very small segment of the market, and it is not that much like really good selling could cause more folks to buy the products. But the proposals would produce sales even when we were nott the lowert bidders. So they must have been quite convincing. 

Probably MBAs should be relegated to doing audits, which they may actually be able to deliver value in that position.

Cabe Atwell
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Re: Naming rights and finding solutions
Cabe Atwell   8/27/2013 2:31:35 PM
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That is clearly thinking 'inside' the box!

William K.
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Re: Naming rights and finding solutions
William K.   8/22/2013 4:27:03 PM
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The very best managers that I have had were far more concerned about making certain that the required results were made very clear, and making certain that the resources needed to deliver those results were available. The very worst mamagers were fixated on appearances and neatness, and often unwilling to even clarify exactly what the required results were. Unfortunately those managers were usually the ones moving up the ladder.

Debera Harward
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Re: Naming rights and finding solutions
Debera Harward   8/21/2013 11:50:09 AM
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GlennA i totally agree with you one get irritated when your supervisor or Manager just bounds you that this is the problem solve it rather than allowing you to explore the issue . I agree that these managers are very experienced one and yes there experience speaks but they should allow there team members as well to look into the issue and explore the problem because experience doesnt speak always

GlennA
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Re: Naming rights and finding solutions
GlennA   8/21/2013 11:08:39 AM
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patb2009;  I have worked for very few managers or supervisors that were knowledgable with the technology, but most thought they were experts.  It is annoying when the person with the most senior title declares what the problem is, without understanding the problem.  And if you try to correct your 'superior';  that is almost always trouble.  However, I have had a couple of supervisors who valued my opinions.

patb2009
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Re: Naming rights and finding solutions
patb2009   8/21/2013 4:50:20 AM
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One of the great fallacies of MBA school is teaching that "All Skils are interchangable",

well, ask your manager who says that "Does that apply to managers?" it's a funny

thing to do, but, it's a career-limiting move.

 

Engineers make lousy marketing types and are oftentimes uninspired leaders,

it's still a mistake to let people who come out of the finance biz run

technical or marketing sectors or the company.  Pull your top leadership

out of marketing, sales, product dev, engineering or production.

William K.
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Re: Naming rights and finding solutions
William K.   8/21/2013 4:35:15 AM
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Parb2009, you hav just described the situation at the last place that I worked. First the layoffs because of not getting new orders, and then the good engieers leaving because the new, "Brillian" manager brought in to turn the place around had only an MBA and no engineering understanding, neither of engineering nor about engineers. Telling the whole staff that you believe that all engineers are an interchangable commodity does not improve moral nor make people more loyal to an organization.

patb2009
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Re: Naming rights and finding solutions
patb2009   8/20/2013 8:17:41 PM
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perhaps you needed to see if Celestica would hire you.

 

Working for a boss who is a dick is no fun, i've known good support engineers

will leave the supplier and go to the customer.

patb2009
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Re: Panasonic Authorized?
patb2009   8/20/2013 8:15:21 PM
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sometimes you need to ignore instructions from the boss and just fix them.

 

 

JimT@Future-Product-Innovations
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Re: Naming rights and finding solutions
JimT@Future-Product-Innovations   8/20/2013 1:14:48 PM
Egos tend to inflate with Incompetence, as Dilbert-like Managers attempt to cover the truth of their short-comings.  The resulting Arrogance, coupled with Ineptitude has crashed and burned many former American Strongholds. (Should we start a list of failed companies-?) But to Glenn's Credit, the 'Glennadac' is now the working adapter of record.  Kudus, despite the idiot supervisor.

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