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loadster
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Re: How PHEV will drive this train
loadster   8/27/2013 2:34:43 PM
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You cite the exception; not the rule. I had a Toy truck and it had a marvelous KISS drivetrain and dash low on breakable amenities. Heck, the sierra tangos riding around in the middle east with an arsenal of RPGs and plating in that cute lil'back bed love those things. They're like VW bus. Carry alot, go forever and mindless to fix. May be the very reason the car makers don't want to make that variety, bad for sustainable market.

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Re: How PHEV will drive this train
Cabe Atwell   8/27/2013 2:02:04 PM
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Toyota's have indeed progressed over the years in reducing the amount of horribly engineered devices. Their truck series, especially their Tacoma SR5s, are built to last and have been 'adopted' by the military for use on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan.

loadster
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How PHEV will drive this train
loadster   8/26/2013 11:44:14 AM
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I think it should be clear to the speculative gray cells that cars with huge battery arrays have built-in obsolescence will not drive the manufacturers to build with longevity as a design goal. More of the bells and whistles like phone interface, USB connectivity and wireless will be unsupported in a decade. How can we expect them to build hardware that will last beyond 20 years when the software and firmware and hardware are obsolete way before. I have a 1996 GMC vortec engine and no dealer or service has ever said, "we've got a software patch for that." So I"m expecting my 2011 center console LCD touch control screen to be unsupported likewise. Built Ford tough is a slogan not a future.

I've come to the conclusion there are two types of people. People that use and throw away and those that use carefully and fix when things fracture. There are hybrids of these types but the car industry is based on disposal. Search on "vintage car auction Nebraska" ; even the dealers knew and know it.

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etmax   8/15/2013 11:44:45 AM
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Way south of the border, in Australia. We have some of the highest UV levels on the globe. I spent 1 week walking around Singapore in a T-Shirt and had no sunburn yet here I get sunburnt in 15 minutes from about 10 in the morning until around 4 in the afternoon. Believe me, most foreign made cars have perishing plastic here.

JimT@Future-Product-Innovations
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Re: Great story
JimT@Future-Product-Innovations   8/15/2013 11:26:23 AM
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Looks like this License plate reads '09, and the date of image I captured was 2010.  So, even as a 3-year-old picture, it still depicts at least a 34 year old car!     For more fun memories, go to www.oldparkedcars.com

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Re: 1995
OLD_CURMUDGEON   8/15/2013 11:13:44 AM
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That's very interesting!  You say, "south of the border", and so I assume your in the subtropical or tropical climate.  Well, we're in FLA, NOT EXACTLY the coolest or driest area either, and our 2008 CAMRY w/ apprx 85K miles is doing OK mechanically & aesthetically.  No major OR minor problems to report, EXCEPT that darn air dam under the front bumper.  It keeps getting caught on those pesky concrete parking lot stop barriers.  WHY CAN'T TOYOTA change the design or something so that the inadvertent action doesn't cause it to become dislodged from the mounting???

 

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Re: "Cool" versus Function
OLD_CURMUDGEON   8/15/2013 11:09:35 AM
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And, you applaud that philosophy????  To me that is disturbing.  It's good that many retailers have fairly easy return privileges in place.

OLD_CURMUDGEON
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Re: Great story
OLD_CURMUDGEON   8/15/2013 11:03:15 AM
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JimT:  AS Bob Hope often ended his shows, "THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES!"  Yes!, you hit the nail on the head.... that is a foto of my old CELICA, except mine was a burnt orange exterior paint w/ a saddle tan interior color.  In fact, it seemed that TOYOTA went through great pains to make the interior plastic the same color as the interior cloth (headliner, seat material, etc.), producing a very bland & boring result.  While this was NOT my first new vehicle, it was a huge disappointment after about the 2nd year of ownership.  The gasket I referred to in my previous post is the large gasket which surrounds the opening for that hatchback.  IF the accompanying foto is current, then it's a testament to the wonderful climate in Washington State.... that a vehicle can survive for almost 40 years & be in the condition that this one seems to be in......  Looks like all it needs is a good washing, some light rubbing compound & a BLUE CORRAL wax job, and it will be ready for the show circuit.....

ADIOS! 

JimT@Future-Product-Innovations
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JimT@Future-Product-Innovations   8/15/2013 10:24:49 AM
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I got my first Driver's License in 1976 and dreamed of this car.  Never did get one ,,,, But I loved your comment " ,,,,looked like a Baby Mustang"  So this one's for you:76 Celica

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Elegant?
Cadman-LT   8/15/2013 9:15:26 AM
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Really??? Was that thing ever elegant? those cars were not much to look at even new. as a friend of an owner I know

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