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Rob Spiegel
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Re: Programming a useful skill?
Rob Spiegel   8/29/2013 8:00:22 AM
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I agree, Cabe. It's huge now and will just continue to grow in the future. It will continue to beconme a very practical skill.

Cabe Atwell
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Re: Programming a useful skill?
Cabe Atwell   8/27/2013 1:59:29 PM
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With the demand for programming jobs set to explode in 2020 (according to Code.org) as well as the STEM project gaining worldwide attention, it was only a matter of time before the Boy Scouts incorporated programming into their skillset.

Rob Spiegel
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Re: Programming a useful skill?
Rob Spiegel   8/14/2013 11:20:25 AM
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Good point, Chuck. If nothing else, it's good to know what's inside the products we use all day, every day.

Charles Murray
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Re: Programming a useful skill?
Charles Murray   8/13/2013 6:23:40 PM
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You're right, Rob -- programming skills could be reasonably linked to "independence and self-reliance" these days. It's a helpless feeling to have to look for an "expert" every time you need to re-write code or repair something.

William K.
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Re: GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
William K.   8/13/2013 12:59:35 PM
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No, not saving after each keystroke, but saving after each line of ladder logic. That meant a save every couple of minutes. Ladder code needs a lot of thinking.

OLD_CURMUDGEON
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Re: GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OLD_CURMUDGEON   8/13/2013 12:17:55 PM
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Years ago, I used to keypunch my AUTOCODER, FORTRAN & ASSEMBLER Hollerith cards twice, just in case things went awry!  Amazing how we've progressed in the past 50 years!  SAVING after each keystroke.  My!  How times have NOT changed!!!

Have a good day.  ADIOS!

William K.
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Re: GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
William K.   8/13/2013 11:52:27 AM
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I have had to use some computers where I felt compelled to save after every line of code was entered. Tedious but not hard to do.

OLD_CURMUDGEON
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Re: GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OLD_CURMUDGEON   8/13/2013 7:42:13 AM
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Well, I DO see your point.  I'm somewhat surprised however because in all the dealings we've had with them, they seem very willing to go the extra mile.  We are not a large corp. either, and so I have come to appreciate the effort that I have received from their Tech Serv. folks.  As far as the Acctg. Dept. is concerned, I've never really dealt with them, except for that one time several years ago, when we were informed that for lack of use, the acct. was closed.  That was somewhat surprising to me, especially in this era when Gigabytes rule the computer storage area.  IF it was 20 years ago, when you paid dearly for megabytes of storage, I could see their desire to keep the Accts. Receivable Master File as small as possible.  Oh, well.... it remains a non-problem, so I don't dwell on it.

I can tell you that they were very involved in an arcane problem w/ their CLICK editor.  As it happened, I'd be working on a Ladder program, and a window would appear informing me that WINDOWS was very sorry, but it would have to shut down the app.  It gave NO other choice, except to close the editor WITHOUT allowing for saving the work.  I complained to them about this, and they forwarded me a special monitor program direct from MICROSOFT which basically logged every iteration of the processor.  You can just imagine how big this file got in a hurry.  At any rate, this problem was random, so it didn't happen with too much frequency, but one never knew WHEN It was going to occur.  After months of very deep inspection, they found the problem, and corrected it with an upgrade to the CLICK editor.  What surprised me was that no one had reported this problem.  I'm sure I'm NOT the only one programming the CLICK PLC using a WINDOWS XP PRO PC.

William K.
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Re: GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
William K.   8/12/2013 8:39:29 PM
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My experience was that there had been a payment disute at some time with somebody at the same address, and the result was that the emergency items that we ordered were not sent next day as we had requested, and nobody ever let us know that there was a problem of any kind. So I was very "inconvenienced" by somebody elses issues from a company that had previously been in that building. I had to buy some National Instruments modules instead, for over twice the price.

This was a few years back, but it left a very strong impression with me.

OLD_CURMUDGEON
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OLD_CURMUDGEON   8/12/2013 7:32:43 AM
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William K. ......  Do I detect a bit of disapproval in your statement???  As far as we're concerned, when we opened an acct. w/ them about 15 yrs ago, we bought a relative few items at a time, and inexpensive ones at that.  Then, there was a lull in activity, and the next time I needed some items, the acct. was closed, so now we do all our purchasing to A-D w/ the corp. credit card.  It suits both parties well, and is never a problem.

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