HOME  |  NEWS  |  BLOGS  |  MESSAGES  |  FEATURES  |  VIDEOS  |  WEBINARS  |  INDUSTRIES  |  FOCUS ON FUNDAMENTALS
  |  REGISTER  |  LOGIN  |  HELP
Page 1/2  >  >>
far911
User Rank
Silver
Re: Any collaboration?
far911   6/26/2013 7:03:36 AM
NO RATINGS
I believe the grand claims by the scientists are inevitable, but even if the new batteries perform half as good, its good enough in my opinion. 

Elizabeth M
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Any collaboration?
Elizabeth M   6/26/2013 4:53:47 AM
NO RATINGS
Funny, Rob, I think we are having the same conversation in two comment strings! I just replied about this topic in another comment on another battery story (there seem to be a lot out there!). It's just as appropriate to your comment here:

The thing is, Rob, that is probably best. But it would also be good if some of these researchers could get on the same page, at least with some of the complementary technologies. I know there are two separate research groups, for example, working on the use of nanotechnology and silicon to improve Li batteries...but I think for now they are separate projects. While I think there won't be a one-size-fits-all solution in the future, some of these solutions could be combined, I think, for a better battery.

Charles Murray
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Any collaboration?
Charles Murray   6/25/2013 8:14:04 PM
NO RATINGS
Yes, taimoortariq, battery research has a tendency to sound a lot better in the lab. When it reaches applications, energy density tends to drop (due to the addition of dead weight to the battery enclosure) and cost tends to climb (due to economic reality).

taimoortariq
User Rank
Gold
Re: Any collaboration?
taimoortariq   6/25/2013 6:16:14 PM
NO RATINGS
This might be a breakthrough in technology, but is it cost effective and highly reproducable for mass production? These are the questions that need to be answered outside the laboratory. It would be amazing to get hold of such a battery, which is compact in size and greater in power, but if its not availiable at a cheaper price then its of no use. Nonetheless, a great advancement in research & hope that we can benefit from it in the future.

Rob Spiegel
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Any collaboration?
Rob Spiegel   6/25/2013 3:07:44 PM
NO RATINGS
Yes, Elizabeth, we could see a lot of unnecessary wheel spinning if research is not shared. These are big problems that have tpo be solved. If some of these battery problems are not solved, it will hurt the future of EVs and hybrids.

Rob Spiegel
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Any collaboration?
Rob Spiegel   6/25/2013 3:03:57 PM
NO RATINGS
We're seen a lot of big claims lately, including the re-charge that takes just seconds. If some of these big moves comes through, it could change the game. Personally, I'm skeptical.

Ann R. Thryft
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Any collaboration?
Ann R. Thryft   6/25/2013 3:00:46 PM
NO RATINGS
Lots of times what's not translating into the real world isn't the technology's performance so much as whether its manufacturing can be scaled up/commercialized and how costly it is to do so. Meanwhile, Stanford researchers have come up with a couple of other new ways for making nanostructures to improve Li-Ion battery performance:
http://cen.acs.org/articles/91/web/2013/06/Crab-Shells-Help-Researchers-Make.html
http://news.stanford.edu/pr/2013/pr-bao-cui-hydrogel-060313.html



far911
User Rank
Silver
Re: Any collaboration?
far911   6/25/2013 7:25:36 AM
NO RATINGS
This is good news. Li-Ion needed this much desired boost in performance and its about time we saw something before a new energy source comes into play. 

Elizabeth M
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Any collaboration?
Elizabeth M   6/25/2013 5:58:07 AM
NO RATINGS
Isn't that the truth, Chuck? If any of these batteries lives up to their promise outside of the lab, it would be a real breakthrough. But I guess we won't know that until some of the go into commercial production, which could take awhile.

Elizabeth M
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Any collaboration?
Elizabeth M   6/25/2013 5:35:33 AM
NO RATINGS
That's a good point, Rob, but I am not aware of any combination of efforts. It seems to me a lot of these efforts are sort of separate, although sometimes there is cross-university or research-instituation collboration, and the government seems to be involved in quite a few of them. But you're right, if some of this isn't merged at some point, there may never be real progress.

Page 1/2  >  >>


Partner Zone
Latest Analysis
The phablet wars continue. Today we welcome the Nexus 6 -- a joint collaboration between Google and Motorola.
According to a study by the National Institute of Standards and Technology, one of the factors in the collapse of the original World Trade Center towers on Sept. 11, 2001, was the reduction in the yield strength of the steel reinforcement as a result of the high temperatures of the fire and the loss of thermal insulation.
If you have a Gadget Freak project, we have a reader who wants to make it. And not only will you get your 15 minutes of fame on our website and social media channels, you will also receive $500 and be automatically entered into the 2015 Gadget Freak of the Year contest.
Robots are getting more agile and automation systems are becoming more complex. Yet the most impressive development in robotics and automation is increased intelligence. Machines in automation are increasingly able to analyze huge amounts of data. They are often able to see, speak, even imitate patterns of human thinking. Researchers at European Automation call this deep learning.
Thanksgiving is a time for family. A time for togetherness. A time for… tech?
More:Blogs|News
Design News Webinar Series
11/19/2014 11:00 a.m. California / 2:00 p.m. New York
11/6/2014 11:00 a.m. California / 2:00 p.m. New York
10/7/2014 8:00 a.m. California / 11:00 a.m. New York
12/11/2014 8:00 a.m. California / 11:00 a.m. New York
Quick Poll
The Continuing Education Center offers engineers an entirely new way to get the education they need to formulate next-generation solutions.
Dec 1 - 5, An Introduction to Embedded Software Architecture and Design
SEMESTERS: 1  |  2  |  3  |  4  |  5  |  6


Focus on Fundamentals consists of 45-minute on-line classes that cover a host of technologies. You learn without leaving the comfort of your desk. All classes are taught by subject-matter experts and all are archived. So if you can't attend live, attend at your convenience.
Last Archived Class
Sponsored by Littelfuse
Learn More   |   Login   |   Archived Classes
Twitter Feed
Design News Twitter Feed
Like Us on Facebook

Sponsored Content

Technology Marketplace

Copyright © 2014 UBM Canon, A UBM company, All rights reserved. Privacy Policy | Terms of Service