HOME  |  NEWS  |  BLOGS  |  MESSAGES  |  FEATURES  |  VIDEOS  |  WEBINARS  |  INDUSTRIES  |  FOCUS ON FUNDAMENTALS
  |  REGISTER  |  LOGIN  |  HELP
Page 1/5  >  >>
Charles Murray
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Perhaps promising
Charles Murray   7/9/2013 7:39:04 PM
NO RATINGS
I agree with your statement about multiple battery solutions, Rob. In the future, I think some cars will use batteries designed for high power (hybrids), high energy (electric cars) and high cycle life.

Rob Spiegel
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Perhaps promising
Rob Spiegel   6/27/2013 11:14:03 PM
NO RATINGS
Actually, Elizabeth, I used the wrong term. The platform sharing is when a car comany uses the same platflorm for more than one branded vehicle. The transfer of technology happens -- at least in part -- on an online technollogy exchange called yet2.com. Apparently, 25 percent of auto technology is bought and sold there. Plus, suppliers such as Seimens are pushng for auto technology to be  released as industry standards.

Yet2.com:

http://marketplace.yet2.com/app/about/about/press?page=press9

Cabe Atwell
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Details...?
Cabe Atwell   6/27/2013 11:05:58 PM
NO RATINGS
If the battery ever fails and produces a leak of some kind it will undoubtedly be easy to detect by smell alone.

C

Charles Murray
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Details...?
Charles Murray   6/27/2013 7:59:08 PM
NO RATINGS
 You're right about the cost advantages of sulfur, Liz. Sulfur is (almost literally) dirt cheap. Cobalt, which is often used in lithium-ion batteries, is far, far more expensive than sulfur.

Elizabeth M
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Perhaps promising
Elizabeth M   6/27/2013 4:33:31 AM
NO RATINGS
That's a good analogy, Rob. I wasn't aware of what was happening in the auto industry. How are they sharing platforms? Would the same type of thing be applicable to battery researchers?

Rob Spiegel
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Perhaps promising
Rob Spiegel   6/26/2013 7:24:43 PM
NO RATINGS
I'd like to see some sharing in this field. If the automakers can share platforms, than I'd think battery developers could as well.

Elizabeth M
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Perhaps promising
Elizabeth M   6/26/2013 4:49:04 AM
NO RATINGS
The thing is, Rob, that is probably best. But it would also be good if some of these researchers could get on the same page, at least with some of the complementary technologies. I know there are two separate research groups, for example, working on the use of nanotechnology and silicon to improve Li batteries...but I think for now they are separate projects. While I think there won't be a one-size-fits-all solution in the future, some of these solutions could be combined, I think, for a better battery.

Rob Spiegel
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Perhaps promising
Rob Spiegel   6/25/2013 3:10:30 PM
NO RATINGS
I'd bet on multiple solutions, Elizabeth. I don't see one solution pulling away decisively.

Elizabeth M
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Perhaps promising
Elizabeth M   6/25/2013 6:31:27 AM
NO RATINGS
I hope it's the latter, Rob. Why should there just be one type of battery design? I think maybe having choice and perhaps finetuning some chemistries for certain applications more than others is the best way to go.

Elizabeth M
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Details...?
Elizabeth M   6/25/2013 6:26:06 AM
NO RATINGS
Hi, Strambo, these are good points. To clarify, I actually believe I made a mistake when I said it replaces lithium with sulfur. It does not, it uses sulfur in conjunction with lithium. Sorry about that; it is the only error I made. Here is a link to Oak Ridge's press release with more details: http://www.ornl.gov/info/press_releases/get_press_release.cfm?ReleaseNumber=mr20130605-00


In terms of the four-times issue...I think I explain it in the article. See this paragraph at the bottom:

However, lithium-sulfur batteries deliver about half the voltage of lithium-ion versions, so the eightfold capacity increase the Oak Ridge battery demonstrated gives it roughly four times the gravimetric energy density of lithium-ion batteries, Liang said.


Hope that helps explain things.

Page 1/5  >  >>


Partner Zone
Latest Analysis
During a teardown of the iPad Air and Microsoft Surface Pro 3 at the Medical Design & Manufacturing Show in Schaumburg, Ill., an engineer showed this "inflammatory" video about the dangers of maliciously mishandling lithium-ion batteries.
The Window Watcher stops the burglar before he does damage or enters the house. House alarm service companies set off alarms and call the service only after the burglar has damaged and entered the house.
If you’re designing a handheld device or industrial machine that will employ a user interface, then you’ll want to check out the upcoming Design News Continuing Education Center course, "Engineering Principles Behind Advanced User Interface Technologies.”
Brooke Williams of Texas Instruments explains how TI’s new TDA3x chip will help future vehicles “see” all around themselves.
It's been two years since the Mac Mini's last appearance on iFixit's teardown table, but a newly revised version joins Apple's lineup this week.
More:Blogs|News
Design News Webinar Series
10/7/2014 8:00 a.m. California / 11:00 a.m. New York
9/25/2014 11:00 a.m. California / 2:00 p.m. New York
9/10/2014 11:00 a.m. California / 2:00 p.m. New York
7/23/2014 11:00 a.m. California / 2:00 p.m. New York
Quick Poll
The Continuing Education Center offers engineers an entirely new way to get the education they need to formulate next-generation solutions.
Nov 3 - 7, Engineering Principles behind Advanced User Interface Technologies
SEMESTERS: 1  |  2  |  3  |  4  |  5  |  6


Focus on Fundamentals consists of 45-minute on-line classes that cover a host of technologies. You learn without leaving the comfort of your desk. All classes are taught by subject-matter experts and all are archived. So if you can't attend live, attend at your convenience.
Next Class: 10/28-10/30 11:00 AM
Sponsored by Stratasys
Next Class: 10/28-10/30 2:00 PM
Sponsored by Gates Corporation
Next Class: 11/11-11/13 2:00 PM
Sponsored by Littelfuse
Learn More   |   Login   |   Archived Classes
Twitter Feed
Design News Twitter Feed
Like Us on Facebook

Sponsored Content

Technology Marketplace

Copyright © 2014 UBM Canon, A UBM company, All rights reserved. Privacy Policy | Terms of Service