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szyhxc
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Re: Shocking indeed
szyhxc   6/13/2013 5:31:26 PM
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You can include industry consolidation.  Jenn Air was top notch before being bought by Maytag and then Whirlpool (or was it Whirlpool first???)

szyhxc
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Re: Shocking indeed
szyhxc   6/13/2013 5:28:52 PM
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Rob etal,

I kicked off the subject conversation.  I will keep you all informed.

szyhxc
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Re: Circuit breaker?
szyhxc   6/13/2013 5:24:04 PM
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J,

 

You are right about the whole unit not being protectable with GFI.  The 110 VAC fan makes it unfeasible to protect with a single GFI device.  You are also 100% correct that an internal GFI on just the 220 VAC burners would work well, but how would you package it?  No one would want customers calling repairers to reset the internal GFI.

 

 

 

szyhxc
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Re: Shocking indeed
szyhxc   6/13/2013 5:17:30 PM
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BAT,

 

Good point!  I agree.

szyhxc
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Re: Shocking INDEED & DANGEROUS!!!
szyhxc   6/13/2013 5:16:27 PM
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OC,

 

I contatced them but never heard back.

szyhxc
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Re: Shocking indeed
szyhxc   6/13/2013 5:13:48 PM
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nap,

 

I did contact them on their web site.  They did see this article and replyed.  See below.  It is my first contact.

szyhxc
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Re: Shocking indeed
szyhxc   6/13/2013 5:11:17 PM
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Some cooking fluids, including grease and oil had accumulated inside the module.  I believe that a fire could have resulted but I also think it would have been contained within.

 

There has been no recall that I am aware of.

Rob Spiegel
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Re: Shocking indeed
Rob Spiegel   6/13/2013 4:05:16 PM
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Thanks GTOlover. One of the patterns I'm seeing is that they discard their older white box appliance that has worked great for 25 years -- all mechanical, no electronics -- in favor of a preferred color and the electronics whiz. And of course, the new one fails.

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Re: Shocking indeed
Rob Spiegel   6/13/2013 4:01:12 PM
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Yes, Chuck, and there are two patterns that match these quality problems time-wise: more electronics and outsourcing.

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Re: Shocking indeed
Rob Spiegel   6/13/2013 1:25:15 PM
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Hey Naperlou. JennAir left a comment here. I passed it on to Bernard and asked him to let us know how the conversation turned out.

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