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oldbikefixr
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Re: Let the market decide
oldbikefixr   5/6/2013 7:05:41 PM
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There ARE laws against this type of technology....just not in all states. Texas has a law on the books prohibiting installation of a television that can be oriented so that it is viewable by the driver.

The argument that '...consumers are demanding it...' wouldn't fly well at a looter's  hearing.

I don't intend to be a technological stick-in-the-mud, but driving is job #1, not playing Word, surfing the web, or watching tv/movies. Offer it and some moron will install it.

Common sense and personal responsibility seem to be on permanent vacation. 'Just because we can' is no excuse.

 

g-whiz
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Let the market decide
g-whiz   5/6/2013 12:28:52 PM
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Any kind of interactive video display can fraught with danger. However, almost all of the newer cars have them. Why? Because that is what customers want. As someone mentioned in an earlier post, this will be sorted out by the insurance companies who will insist customers pay a higher premium for the added risk of having a video display veiwable by the driver. It really doesn't matter what the display was showing at the time, the first time an automaker gets sued for billions for providing a video interface that distracted the driver, the displays will disappear. Remember, in today's society, it's never the drivers fault. Even providing a disclaimer that says, "do not watch TV while driving" will not be enough to protect the vendor in today's litigious court system. And to those who are saying, "There should be a law", we already have a law that addresses this - Reckless driving. I've seen several instances where this law should be excersized. People eating or putting on make-up. All of these are dangerous distractions, but we don't have specific laws that say you can't do it.

Nancy Golden
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Re: new paradigm
Nancy Golden   5/6/2013 9:33:15 AM
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Charles, isn't it interesting that the company in question can't seem to distinguish between "needs" and "wants." I want a lot of things that are bad for me (Double fudge chocolate sundae) but I sure don't need it! Televisions in the front seat is pure lunacy. I guess the statistical increase in driving fatalities due to texting is not enough of a wake-up call. My vote is for no phone use or televisions in vehicles. Drivers might actually stay in their lanes and passengers might actually learn to observe and enjoy their surroundings and actually engage in conversation.

3drob
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Re: new paradigm
3drob   5/6/2013 8:49:36 AM
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Cabe, It's funny you have the back seat screens and don't use them.  I think most high end options are never really wanted; they are just part of a "trim package" that had something of interest.  We have leather seats in our FFH because they came with the navigation system which was a must for me (I have always disliked leather seats and much prefer cloth, I never would have purchased them if I had had a choice). 

But even the back seat screens are distracting to drivers (I find it impossible to drive behind a vehicle with backseat video without trying to see what's on).

I recently rented an RV for a weeklong trip with the family.  I bought a new GPS for it, in part because it had an AV input (in my case for a back-up camera, but this TV/DVD capability is already available with many standard GPS units).  The AV input didn't work, so I had to take my portable 7" TV and rig it up.  It was a lifesaver (especially for changing lanes in heavy traffic), but I wondered if I could get a ticket if pulled over (this is illegal in many states).

I am very surprised that "no TV up front" isn't a federal mandate.

78RPM
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Re: new paradigm
78RPM   5/5/2013 10:43:48 PM
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Yes, how many more distractions do we have to offer drivers? All of us have read news stories of cell phone distraction tragedies in our own communities. Can the TV at least have blinders to the driver seat? That way, the passenger will not be distracting the driver with conversation -- unless the passenger reacts vociferously to comedy or action.  Just ask yourself, can anything good come of this? I can't think of anything.

Debera Harward
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Re: new paradigm
Debera Harward   5/4/2013 6:44:30 AM
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Cabe i totally agree with you .These days mobile phone technology is soo advanced that one can find any sort of information anywhere on their mobile phones even if they want to see videos or something like that it is not difficult these days with the help of mobile phones .Adding tv system to the car is not good according to me from security point of views even if the driver is not intended to watch the television then also by mistake he might put a glance on it secondly if television is on its shadow or lightening can disturb the driver as well.

I wonder in many countries there is bann on talking on mobile phones while driving how can one allow watching television and driving .

Charles Murray
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Re: new paradigm
Charles Murray   5/3/2013 6:08:53 PM
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The companies that provide these installation services in the U.S. don't seem anxious to do press interviews and aren't really saying if consumers are demanding this. In a Wall Street Journal story from Japan, Autobacs Seven said, "We can't help but respond to our customers' needs."

Cabe Atwell
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Re: new paradigm
Cabe Atwell   5/3/2013 3:13:39 PM
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The "TV" (more like - media streaming device) is meant for viewing when you are not driving. Since I have my phone with a 5" screen, it's 3g/4g/wifi connectivity, I can stream all I want anytime anywhere. So, I will have to say NO to adding another screen to my car.

However, I have two screens on my car for backseat and tailgate viewing. I bought it this way. Having the car for years now.. I have never once used them for anything.

C

NadineJ
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new paradigm
NadineJ   5/3/2013 12:06:55 PM
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Network tv, as we knew it, is gone.  Shared moments like the moon landing or the last episode of M*A*S*H, are a thing of history.  Networks have been looking for ways to maintain their bottom lines.  Since tv's are more mobile-around the house and in our pockets-televisions in cars is another opportunity for ad revenue.

I haven't seen anything on "why" this is being proposed.  GPS and bluetooth in cars were direct requests from consumers.

Are people asking for this?  Why?

Rob Spiegel
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Banned in the future
Rob Spiegel   5/3/2013 9:33:38 AM
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Nice story, Jenn. The cops probably haven't had to deal with the downside of front-seat TVs yet. If these TVs become common, I would guess the police will get a good view of the damage this type of driver distraction will inevitably cause. If this catches on, we can expect a resulting rise in traffic deaths. Then it will be banned.

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