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Rob Spiegel
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Re: A tad too complicated
Rob Spiegel   6/5/2013 8:38:52 PM
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Yep, Chuck. Mobile phones are great when the car breaks down, or when traffic delays your meeting time. My 17-year-old daughter, however, lives through her Android. 

GeoOT
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Lack of support for problem phone
GeoOT   5/26/2013 6:14:07 PM
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I don't think this problem will get fixed until there is a class action suit against the suppliers.  That might take a 1-2 punch of bringing the request for calss action before a judge who has been frustrated as well.  This is a new business and we are in the Wild West. There will be consumer protection eventually but it is likely to be too late for me.  The same sort of things happened in the 19th century with boiler safety and railroad signaling.

Critic
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Scrap
Critic   5/23/2013 3:48:09 PM
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Sometimes people try to get too deeply involved with their phones and computers without having a full understanding of what they are doing.  Sadly, this happens frequently, even among people who are "techies."  It is foolish to think, unless you are the designer of the phone, or developer of the software/firmware, that you have much of an understanding.

This is the age of disposable consumer electronics.  If the phone has a problem, exchange it under warranty or throw it in the trash (after smashing it into submission with a hammer- please wear safety goggles) and get another one.  Don't get the same model/brand if you didn't like the first one, and be sure to advertise loudly that the old one was a piece of crap.

Cadman-LT
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Ridiculous
Cadman-LT   5/17/2013 10:52:56 PM
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That reminded me. A friend of mine just bought a new phone and had a question about it. He brought it to me instead of where he bought it(even though I know hardly anything about phones). I asked him why not ask the guys at the store and he said...ohh they won't know. I think if you sell phones you should have a knowledgable staff to answer questions and fix problems. It's ridiculous to have to research the information yourself when you just purchased a product. Just a thought!

Charles Murray
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Re: A tad too complicated
Charles Murray   5/17/2013 6:35:44 PM
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I'm the same, Rob. I've been offered a Blackberry by the company, and have turned it down. Seeing my e-mail on my laptop is enough for me, thank you. I prefer to keep things a little simpler.

Hilly-Billy-13
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Phone upgrades from HE--
Hilly-Billy-13   5/10/2013 9:59:23 PM
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In the late 90's I worked on the Engineering side of the CDMA build out for. Our phones had special firmware in them for testing the system, and was regularly upgraded. This required the phones my team was using to make a trip back to Illinois and was done in phases so if something went wrong the team could still function at a reduced rate. One such upgrade fried the first batch phones they did the upgrade on, I was lucky in that my phone was slated for the second round which did work as advertised

Bill

Rob Spiegel
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Re: A tad too complicated
Rob Spiegel   5/9/2013 3:59:35 PM
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I'm an Old Fogy, too, Rkinner. Work provides me with a Blackberry, but I rarely use it -- partly because I'm not aware of all of its functions. However, it's a completely different story with my teenage daughter and my 24-year-old son. A smartphone is a necessity in their view of the world.

rkinner
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Re: A tad too complicated
rkinner   5/8/2013 7:09:39 PM
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Guess I'm showing my age but I haven't found a strong enough reason to have a smart phone, no matter the manufacturer or service provider.  This just gives me another reason to stay on the sidelines. 

I have a simple voice phone (what a concept, talking on a phone) and it seems to do what I need.  Yes, I have a separate GPS for driving in unfamilar locales and that does fine without a monthly service fee.  I did get dragged into the 21st Century with a Kindle Fire which serves as a PDA and reader - didn't know if I would have problems converting from a Palm PDA but it sucked up my data and I haven't looked back.

Give me a non-wireless service device using WiFi and I'm happy.  There is not many hotels without that minimum service and I can live without a notice every 5 minutes about my recent e-mails.  I'm an "Old Fogy" and proud of it.

OLD_CURMUDGEON
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OVERBLOATED Code.....
OLD_CURMUDGEON   5/8/2013 3:38:35 PM
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Would NEVER have this problem IF we were still programming w/ HOLLERITH Cards!

What I believe is on of the fundamental problems is that today's applications are no less than hundreds of thousands of lines of code, and there isn't a person alive who can retain all the threads, variables, states, etc. with such precision to guarantee overall success.  Patches have always been problematic, and will continue to be, especially given that there are literally teams of people building individual modules, which magically get sewn together into the app that fails!

Look at MICROSOFT as the best example..... WINDOWS recently celebrated its 3oth anniversary, and it's still full of bugs, anomalies, incompatibilities, securities holes, and every other negative adjective that one can assign to the product!  And, yet, has MICROSOFT undertaken the challenge to "clean up" their product?  Heck NO!... they just continue to build on the quicksand of WINDOWS 3.1!

kf2qd
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This is getting more typical
kf2qd   5/7/2013 9:47:42 AM
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The problem with more an more computer based products is that the end user is not the considered to be the owner of his device. So called upgrades that cause the device to funtion in a different manner, Upgrades that break other software.

In the past I have have Linux ask if I wanted to upgrade, and then it did a complete compatability scan and told me there wold be a problem because of a certain piece of software I had installed. It also asked if I would allow the update to make the changes required or if I wanted to hold off.

Windows, on the other hand went and performed an update, and then proceded to crash because I was using daemon tools lite. No warnings, just my computer doesn't boot. Fortuately I had Ubuntu installed and I could still boot to Linux and look for a solution...


Or my Android phone - recently performed and upgrade - now the phone diler app is different and very annoyng. WHY???? and the calender lost all my dates... And here I foolishly thought that an udate was supposed to improve something.

And why did it have to change? because some programmer thinks all change is an improvement? and there is no way to go back to the previous phone app.

I also am a programmer. But I also understand that all change does not equal improvement. And I also try to make it so the end user sees the change as an improvement.

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