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to defend *oot
Jim_E   4/24/2013 10:31:35 AM
That's crazy that there were plastic socket drive parts, and such small gauge jumper wires!

But, I have to defend the mentioned *oot site.  I've bought many items from there over the years, and like anywhere else, you have to know what you're buying.  I like my "leakfrog" water detectors that I got from that site, and I've even bought my first flat screen TV from there and haven't had any problems with the stuff.

Besides, where else can you buy a random "Bag Of Crap"?  :)

bob from maine
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Re: Advice
bob from maine   4/24/2013 10:27:18 AM
I have, over the course of a 50 year career doing every job imaginable, consistently regretted purchasing cheap tools. I still have and use Snap-On mechanic's tools purchased 35 years ago. After melting a few sets of jumper cables, I made a 30' set of #1 tinned copper with tin-plated clamps. Cost was around $100 just in materials, but these cables have jump-started diesel trucks, bulldozers, boats, heated frozen fasteners using a carbon rod and are still as good as the day I made them. The 'jumper' cables that plug into a cigarette lighter socket will charge a dead battery given enough time (to charge a 100AH battery that is dead ideally takes 5 hours at 20 Amps, two and a half hours to get it to 50%) and that's assuming you don't blow the lighter fuse. They are a fire hazard though and can really shouldn't be sold as "jumper" cables. The cheapest "jumper" cable set you'll ever buy is a Triple A membership.

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shrimper53   4/24/2013 10:03:59 AM
I'm surprised the whole damn thing didn't melt or light up when you tried it.  I've always noted the latent heat in the cables after I've used my good, heavy gauge ones to do a jump start.   

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OLD_CURMUDGEON   4/24/2013 9:36:10 AM
I've had relatives in the family (most now deceased!) that WOULD NOT spend the extra "dime" to buy high quality tools.  They'd always buy the least expensive, cheapest-looking tool, and then RE-buy them when they failed after brief use.  The irony of this is that in each case, the person was very successful in life, both financially & otherwise.  So, who's to say or criticize??????

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Battar   4/24/2013 8:57:54 AM
Advice my father gave me for buying tools - "find the cheapest tool in the shop - and DON'T BUY THAT ONE". It's a mistake to try and save pennies on cheap tools.

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TJ McDermott   4/24/2013 2:19:51 AM
It's likely that you'd simply have melted the cable if it was of such small gauge.  Not just cheaply constructed, but downright dangerous.

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Re: Dire circumstances
Noor Khalsa   4/23/2013 3:20:08 PM
I have to agree re: contingencies. The story gets better: the emergency kit came with a "socket set", 1/4" drive. Small, cheapie sockets that are driven by a plastic-handled drive. I tried to use them to remove the 10mm nut on my battery post, and the plastic handle broke away from the metal shaft on the first try. BTW, I'm not going to name the website where he bought it, but it rhymes with POOT.

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far911   4/23/2013 9:55:37 AM
I guess the lesson to be learned from this is never to go cheap when you're planning for contingencies. More likely, never to buy stuff off of phishy websites.

I got a VGA Box once which was produced by some unknown Chinese vendor. No doubt the device died out on me after a month's usage.

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