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far911
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AWESOME
far911   4/1/2013 2:10:44 PM
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it certainly is a piece of art.

Charles Murray
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Re: AWESOME
Charles Murray   4/1/2013 6:46:19 PM
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I agree, far911. It's a beautiful vehicle, albeit a $320,000 beautiful vehicle.

jfs1970
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Re: AWESOME
jfs1970   4/2/2013 11:49:56 AM
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Nice April Fool's gag!  You actually had me going for a while, until I got to the description of the GPS transmission, finger scribble screen, and the starlight roof.  Then I realized......DUH!

Jim_E
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Not an April Fools prank
Jim_E   4/2/2013 3:26:10 PM
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This is not an April Fools Joke, as the Wraith was actually just revealed at the New York Auto Show:

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1083283_2014-rolls-royce-wraith-video-preview

http://www.rolls-roycemotorcars.com/wraith/

I love the idea of extra info displayed via a HUD.  Cadillac used to have something similar, way back in 2000.  Looks like others have it now:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_night_vision

 

 

Charles Murray
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Re: Not an April Fools prank
Charles Murray   4/2/2013 8:12:08 PM
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Yes, Jim E, Cadillac did have night vision a few years back. I drove it but couldn't get the hang of using it. I like this idea better -- if it sees a "hot spot," it displays a yellow triangle on the head-up display.

apresher
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Electronics add glitter
apresher   4/1/2013 8:22:37 PM
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Chuck, Love the use of GPS data to anticipate upcoming hills, and adjust gear to fit. Every car should offer this small luxury. Thanks.

TJ McDermott
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Re: Electronics add glitter
TJ McDermott   4/1/2013 8:37:16 PM
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apresher, what happens when you enter a tunnel or other cause of sporadic GPS signals?  Or, a better question might be - What happens when the system REGAINS GPS signal?  A sudden gear change?

Turbineman
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Re: Electronics add glitter
Turbineman   4/2/2013 12:53:35 PM
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The best innovation I see is the night vision with "heads up" warning.  The GPS terrain feature is more "tecnnology in desparate search of a use", and I fear, would not only take some of the fun out of driving, but reduce some of the driver's skills (but I repeat myself).

Battar
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...mobile
Battar   4/2/2013 9:26:24 AM
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In one corner of the world, coincidentally the country where Roll-Royce was founded, this car will be known as a "pratmobile" (US citizens might have to look up the definition of "prat"). This is not a vehicle for reaching your destination in speed, safety and comfort. A BMW 5 or Mercedes C-class can do that. This is a car for showing everyone else how much money you have.

Zippy
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21st Century RR
Zippy   4/2/2013 9:27:59 AM
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RR has come out with a driver-oriented performance vehicle designed by a BMW engineer.  Quite a change from the days when Bentley was their performance division.  In the old days, RR ignored the driver (assumed to be your chauffeur), emphasized the luxury of the back seat (where the owner sat), and listed the horsepower as "adequate."

 

Does the Queen know about this?   :)

ChasChas
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Re: 21st Century RR
ChasChas   4/2/2013 9:46:02 AM
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Yes, Zippy - time was when you bought a RR when you reached a point where you felt driving was beneath your station in life.

What gives?

RichR
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Re: 21st Century RR
RichR   4/2/2013 9:58:41 AM
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Quite a choice of a name, Wraith. Google it and see what it means.

Ann R. Thryft
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Re: 21st Century RR
Ann R. Thryft   4/2/2013 12:10:58 PM
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Wraith means essentially the same thing as a previous RR car name: Phantom.



Charles Murray
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Re: 21st Century RR
Charles Murray   4/2/2013 8:08:21 PM
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Today, two new words have been introduced to me. Wraith...(a phantom)? And prat...(a fool)? I put in question marks because honestly don't know. Commenters could you please fill me in on this?

William K.
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Re: 21st Century RR
William K.   4/2/2013 9:02:26 PM
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My7 dictionary lists "pratt" as "slang the buttocks  [?], and consider the word "pratfall", which is evidently supposed to be a funnything in comedy. 

As for "wraith", consider those poor Ringwraiths mentioned in "the Hobbit" and "the Lord of the Rings". Ghostly creatures capable of moving very rapidly.

Charles Murray
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Re: 21st Century RR
Charles Murray   4/9/2013 8:06:08 PM
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Thanks for the explanations and derivations, William K. My vocabulary has been expanded today.  

kid-jensen
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Re: 21st Century RR
kid-jensen   4/3/2013 4:24:02 AM
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RR had no choice but to produce a performance version in their range, the alternative would be to loose customers to other luxury brands that have them already.  They couldn't call it a Bently because when RR was sold-off, the VAG group bought the name. BMW only got the RR car devision.

As an Englishman, of course it was sad to see RR fall into "enemy" hands, but it has to be said that BMW have largely respected the RR tradition for ultra-high quality engineering, luxury and innovation.

j-allen
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Rolls Royce electronics
j-allen   4/2/2013 10:01:13 AM
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Very cute, but are there data showing that this needlessly complicated system drives the car any more efficiently than a moderately skilled human?  While it certainly can predict terrain, can it know things like weather or traffic conditions?


It is ironic that the same company which once built the world's most efficient aircraft engines would be turning out this gas hog. 

OLD_CURMUDGEON
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!, the WRAITH!
OLD_CURMUDGEON   4/2/2013 10:31:11 AM
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It might be interesting to note that the bulk of the sales of this vehicle will no doubt go to the sheiks in Arabia, etal. where the biggest challenge will be a sand dune or two!


William K.
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New "wraith", if you ask how much, don't bother
William K.   4/2/2013 5:00:44 PM
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I would agree that a car like this is to show off one's wealth. 625 HP in a passenger car? IT could win prizes at a dragstrip, no doubt, but the price of the car could probably buy some dragstrips. And all of that electronics, oh wow, who would ever be able to service it? Not even RR itself, would be my guess. But it is probably the highest quality "way over the top" car that one would find. But I doubt that I could even afford to put gas in the tank. BUT I don't care.

Charles Murray
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Re: New "wraith", if you ask how much, don't bother
Charles Murray   4/2/2013 8:10:14 PM
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I imagine that this would be a second car for many Rolls-Royce owners, William K. The first would be the $3.9 million Lamborghini we showed a few weeks ago.

JimT@Future-Product-Innovations
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Re: New "wraith", if you ask how much, don't bother
JimT@Future-Product-Innovations   12/30/2013 11:17:37 PM
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I'm making a comment now,  8 months late, as I just saw this article posted in a Design-News Daily Update email which just broadcast on 12/30/2013.

Satellite-Assisted transmission shifting-?  Talk about taking the fun out of driving a high-priced performance vehicle --  Might as well come with a queen-sized sleeper, and satin sheets.  Engineering Over-Kill.  Sounds like taking the train, with a sleeping berth. Arabian Sheiks, for sure.

William K.
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Re: New "wraith", if you ask how much, don't bother
William K.   12/31/2013 4:44:30 PM
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Jim T, my guess is that the vehicle should also come with a permanent oversized price tag on the outside, so that the rest of us can understand how impressed we should be. 

JimT@Future-Product-Innovations
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Re: New "wraith", if you ask how much, don't bother
JimT@Future-Product-Innovations   12/31/2013 6:08:49 PM
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Laughing over here – I love your inference.  I often go straight to the "over-compensating for something smaller" idea, but I saw one other previous comment suggesting the only likely buyers would be Arabian Sheiks.  Probably accurate.

bobjengr
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ROLLS-ROYCE
bobjengr   6/4/2013 6:15:47 PM
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 I suppose if you could afford a car  costing north of $320K, gas mileage would not be an issue.  I would love to know what MPG this "ride" migh provide.   With a curb weight of 5200 pounds, can't be that much .  Great post Charles.

 

William K.
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But WHY??
William K.   9/11/2013 9:46:51 AM
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The new RR Wraith does sound like quite an engineering marvel, but then I find myself wondering why anybody would be willing to spend that much for a car.  So while it is certainly a demonstration of what determined engineers can produce when cost is not much of a consideration, it does bring to my mind the question of "why bother?" $320K is more than three years pay for a whole lot of people. 

William K.
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But can anybody repair it? Or even get parts?
William K.   12/30/2013 8:54:15 PM
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One other question arises, at least in my mind, is how well would the "wraith" even survive in the saturated saltspray environment in a southeastern Michigan winter. The salinity is far worse than the military salt spray test, and it goes on for a minimum of three months. So the sealing needs to be at least perfect and long lasting as well.

And then given the pace of development, how long will spare parts be available? Or is this car to be "serviced as an assembly" the way so many things are?



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