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Elizabeth M
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Re: Some answers about "groov"
Elizabeth M   3/27/2013 11:14:58 AM
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Thanks for providing more information on this for our readers. It always helps to hear directly from the expert's mouth about the product and to fill in the information gaps. I thought I had added the info about the system support but I write a lot of blog posts so I can't remember! But good that you informed our readers about it.

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Some answers about "groov"
OptoISO   3/26/2013 8:28:24 PM
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I'm the Opto 22 media contact who provided Elizabeth with the early information on groov, and I think I can address the questions here. (And for the record, I have no idea how I got the username "OptoISO.")

Jack and TJ: groov -- specifically the groov web application -- runs in a web browser on a mobile or other device, so the key requirement is not the device OS, but instead it's whether the device's web browser is current enough to handle the caching, graphics scaling, and other recent web technologies the groov web application uses.

Jack: I think that information about automation system support didn't make it past DN's editorial trimming process. For its initial release in April, groov communicates with Opto 22 SNAP PAC systems and OptoEMU energy monitoring products. Support for OPC-UA is planned to be added later this year, which expands the number of devices for which you can create and run an operator interface. If the automation system or device has an OPC-UA server, groov can talk to it.

Additional information on groov is available here: http://groov.com

David

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Re: Mobile Monitoring Aspect is Very Cool
Jack Rupert, PE   3/25/2013 4:09:32 PM
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TJ, Having worked for an OEM in the mobile machinery industry for a number of years, this would have been a VERY useful system if it were capable of getting the info from whatever automation system that was bein used.  However, I think it almost needs to be dual-OS (Android and iOS).  Whatever one you pick, your customers will have standarized on the other one.

TJ McDermott
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Re: Mobile Monitoring Aspect is Very Cool
TJ McDermott   3/18/2013 10:21:28 AM
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Elizabeth, MySCADA comes to mind:

http://www.myscada.org/wp/

If I remember correctly, the development environment was more than $600 less expensive, possibly as much as $800 less.

However, theirs is limited to the iOS only.  Given a choice, I'd rather have a solution that works on Android because the hardware is much less expensive.

Elizabeth M
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Re: Mobile Monitoring Aspect is Very Cool
Elizabeth M   3/18/2013 5:47:43 AM
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Thanks for the info, TJ, I didn't know who else was offering this. What other companies have less expensive alternatives?

TJ McDermott
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Re: Mobile Monitoring Aspect is Very Cool
TJ McDermott   3/17/2013 3:51:43 PM
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Opto-22 is out front with this, but I think their pricing is going to inhibit adoption of it.  There are other packages (albeit from much less well-known companies) for far less.

Elizabeth M
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Re: Mobile Monitoring Aspect is Very Cool
Elizabeth M   3/12/2013 5:48:08 AM
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Yes, Nancy, this technology has come a long way. And I think it will go even further as technologies like EtherCAT are adopted more across industrial networks and everything becomes more interconnected. The mobile device is a powerful tool, and to have access to information in the field using devices people carry every day is I imagine quite handy. Thanks for the industry perspective on this.

Elizabeth M
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Re: Mobile Tool
Elizabeth M   3/12/2013 5:25:06 AM
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It's my understanding, apresher, that the tool is meant more to build an interface for a contemporary mobile device, like a smartphone or tablet, that connects to an automation system and provides relevant system diagnostic and other information on that device. So it's not quite as specific as what you are describing. But I can double check and make sure I am explaining it correctly.

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apresher   3/11/2013 11:25:54 AM
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Elizabeth, Is one target for this technology machinery builders who would develop an app for their specific machines?  Definitely interesting technology and I like the HDI acronym.  Thanks.

Nancy Golden
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Mobile Monitoring Aspect is Very Cool
Nancy Golden   3/11/2013 11:16:19 AM
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I really like the mobile monitoring aspect of this tool. In the old days I wrote a program that monitored a 160 channels and when one of them went out of range, it paged the engineer with the number of the channel that was out of range - and we thought that was great. The engineer would know from the channel number whether or not it was something that he had to address immediately and go to the plant, or if it was something that could wait until morning. Being able to read the actual data in real time from any location like you were standing in front of it in an easy and intuitive format is very cool - We've come a long way, baby!

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