HOME  |  NEWS  |  BLOGS  |  MESSAGES  |  FEATURES  |  VIDEOS  |  WEBINARS  |  INDUSTRIES  |  FOCUS ON FUNDAMENTALS
  |  REGISTER  |  LOGIN  |  HELP
<<  <  Page 2/3  >  >>
Elizabeth M
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Risk Minerals
Elizabeth M   3/4/2013 4:57:12 AM
NO RATINGS
Yes, Cabe, I know cost effectiveness is part of the design plan of Ambri, but I guess it will remain to be seen until the batteries start shipping and are being used. And you're right, multimillion-dollar batteries would be a little pricey and probably not worth the investment. There are interesting innovations being made in lithium-ion batteries, as well, though, so you never know what designers may come up with.

Cabe Atwell
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Risk Minerals
Cabe Atwell   3/1/2013 7:03:05 PM
NO RATINGS
Regulation and green energy is sure to benefit from the "giant battery" approach. Let's hope the cost doesn't reflect size. A lithium-ion battery that size would do the job too, but the cost would be in the multi-millions.

C

Elizabeth M
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Risk Minerals
Elizabeth M   2/28/2013 4:11:06 AM
NO RATINGS
Yes, Greg, it's also good that the chemistry was able to be modified to meet the availability of minerals for the battery. But I suppose that is something that the inventors had to consider in the design. Often what works when something is first developed doesn't always work well for mass production.

Elizabeth M
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Liquid Metal?
Elizabeth M   2/28/2013 3:56:26 AM
NO RATINGS
Yes, it does remain heated, but I think the battery has its own process of self heating through its charging and discharging. Still, I can see how the temperature might be a concern.

William K.
User Rank
Platinum
Re: Liquid Metal?
William K.   2/27/2013 10:28:10 PM
While the chemistry may be very effective, keeping that much material that hot is going to require a bit of heating power and some very good insulation. So the practical utilization of the concept is a real challenge. Possibly use an atomic reactor to keep it hot, but what effect would the intense radiation have on the system? In summary, "it works in theory, but will it ever be practical." Keeping metals melted is a hot task indeed.

Greg M. Jung
User Rank
Platinum
Re: Risk Minerals
Greg M. Jung   2/27/2013 7:54:15 PM
NO RATINGS
Good strategy.  I'm glad that other minerals (that are be more available) could also produce results with this technology.

Charles Murray
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Liquid Metal?
Charles Murray   2/27/2013 7:42:26 PM
NO RATINGS
You're right on the money, ttemple. I think Ambri specifies 400-700 degrees C.

ttemple
User Rank
Platinum
Liquid Metal?
ttemple   2/27/2013 12:13:44 PM
NO RATINGS
If I'm reading this correctly, the entire contents of the battery is in a liquid state.  To liquify antimony and magnesium requires approximately 1200 degrees F.  So, this battery is at that temperature to function?

Hey, what's in that 40' trailer over there?  Oh, just 80,000 lbs of liquified metal.  Is that a problem?

 

Elizabeth M
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Exciting if its potential can be realized
Elizabeth M   2/27/2013 5:08:30 AM
NO RATINGS
I didn't know Gates was an investor, Chuck! Well, it sounds like something he would go for...but I don't know if he's still contributing. Anyone else know? I'll look it up online and see...

Elizabeth M
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Exciting if its potential can be realized
Elizabeth M   2/27/2013 4:41:10 AM
NO RATINGS
Great, thanks for the link, Chuck. Sadoway seems like a bit of a rock star...definitely a brilliant mind and this would be great if it really lived up to the potential, as I said before. I just think it's cool there are some big minds trying to tackle these problems, and he seems very passionate about it.

<<  <  Page 2/3  >  >>


Partner Zone
Latest Analysis
People don’t like change, but as did the three industrial revolutions before it, Industry 4.0 will deliver painful change and irrecoverable harm to those that don’t adapt.
Futurist Raymond Kurzweil discussed biotechnology, solar power, and 3D printing at the Pacific Design & Manufacturing Show in Anaheim this week.
Valentine’s Day seems like a good time to recognize those folks around us who have had a hand in our success.
Makers of industrial PCs are continuing to take advantage of Moore’s law expansion of processing power enabling creative automation and control schemes with multicore processors.
Researchers at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory have published two physics-based models for the selective laser melting (SLM) metals additive manufacturing process, so engineers can understand how it works at the powder and scales, and develop better parts with less trial and error.
More:Blogs|News
Design News Webinar Series
1/28/2016 11:00 a.m. California / 2:00 p.m. New York
12/8/2015 11:00 a.m. California / 2:00 p.m. New York
2/18/2016 11:00 AM PT | 2:00 PM ET
2/24/2016 11:00 AM PT | 2:00 PM ET
Quick Poll
The Continuing Education Center offers engineers an entirely new way to get the education they need to formulate next-generation solutions.
Jan 11 - 15, Designing ARM Devices Using Segger Tools
SEMESTERS: 1  |  2  |  3  |  4  |  5  |  6 |  7 | 8 | 9


Focus on Fundamentals consists of 45-minute on-line classes that cover a host of technologies. You learn without leaving the comfort of your desk. All classes are taught by subject-matter experts and all are archived. So if you can't attend live, attend at your convenience.
Learn More   |   Login   |   Archived Classes
Twitter Feed
Design News Twitter Feed
Like Us on Facebook

Sponsored Content

Technology Marketplace

Copyright © 2016 UBM Canon, A UBM company, All rights reserved. Privacy Policy | Terms of Service