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warren@fourward.com
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Re: Non-food crop fuel production
warren@fourward.com   1/29/2013 9:18:20 PM
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I have been complaining about the garbage corn and soy they grow here in Missouri! You can't eat it, and it goes to highly subsidized fuel that rots your engines, starves the world, and uses more fossil fuel to grow than you get out ! (Exaggeration allowed) Horrid stuff! And McAirplane will be no better.

William K.
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Non-food crop fuel production
William K.   1/29/2013 7:46:40 PM
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This sounds like an excellent invention indeed. But how much energy is consumed in the production of this fuel?  Currently the ethyl alcohol fuel requires more energy to produce than it delivers, so it is a negative-sum option, aside from taking corn out of the food market. It seems like there must be a fair amount of processing of the raw plants before actual fuel is realized, and not much of that process is free, (I don't think it is free), so there is some sort of cost involved. When will we hear about that side of the story? 

Note that I am not attacking this new product, just hoping to understand it quite a bit better.

NadineJ
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Re: Semi-Arid Land
NadineJ   1/29/2013 6:38:52 PM
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Good question.  I'd like to see this in cars too! 

Lots of great research was done in the early 20th century that was abandoned for cheaper petroleum based options.  In this new industrial revolution, we can build on the past again.

Cabe Atwell
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Re: Semi-Arid Land
Cabe Atwell   1/29/2013 6:05:33 PM
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How soon until this is an option for automobiles? Synthetic fuel is nothing new. WWII say coal based fuel power an entire army. The USA tried to keep research on it going, but gasoline was just so much cheaper. However, now... I think it is time to go back.

C

Ann R. Thryft
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Re: Semi-Arid Land
Ann R. Thryft   1/29/2013 12:46:46 PM
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You're right, Greg. So far, this is a Canadian effort, at least on the farmer end of the process. It will be interesting to see whether this particular process catches on among US farmers, also.

Greg M. Jung
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Semi-Arid Land
Greg M. Jung   1/28/2013 10:44:34 PM
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I especially like the fact that this plant source can grow in semi-arid regions where regular crops do not compete for finite farmland resource.  If I'm reading this correctly, it could not only increase productive land acreage, but could also be a new source of revenue for farmers.

apresher
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Non-Food Jet Biofuel
apresher   1/28/2013 4:54:17 PM
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Very interesting technology. It's going to be fascinating to see the impact of this type of inquiry over a 5-10 year timeframe. Could be game changing energy source.

Elizabeth M
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Nice to see results
Elizabeth M   1/28/2013 2:15:29 PM
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It's one thing to test jet biofuel but it's another now to see some results of those tests, and positive ones at that. This is definitely a step in the right direction.

tekochip
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100LL
tekochip   1/28/2013 1:48:44 PM
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Nice story, any luck on replacing 100 Low Lead?

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