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Potentially huge power saving opportunities in theSmart Energy, Building and Home Automation profiles:

Some Data Points just for Household Electric Use alone, and these figures from 2001 Data ...

Heating, ventilation, and cooling (HVAC) accounted for 356 billion kWh, 31 percent of the electricity consumed by U.S. households in 2001.

Electric space heating accounted for an additional 116 billion kWh (10 percent of the total), which is considerable given that, nationwide, space heating was predominantly fueled by natural gas. In almost 31 million households, electricity was the source of energy for the main heating system. In an additional 13 million households, it was used in secondary heating equipment, such as portable heaters and built-in electric units.

Electric water heating accounted for over 100 billion kWh (9 percent) in 2001. Of the total of 107 million households, 41 million used electricity as their water heating fuel, ...

FROM - US HOUSELHOLD ELECTRICITY REPORT:

LINK -->> http://www.eia.gov/emeu/reps/enduse/er01_us.html

glad to see telecom profile for traffic reduction

Smart Energy / Medical / Industrial Sensor Monitoring

Home automation and security (as personal "fun" projects)

Iron

Great to have access to the recorded sessions!

Iron

Taking the class offline...

Iron

Where does one find already registered profile IDs?

Iron

Hello,

Catching up again from the archive

Iron

Nice presentation, I'm enjoying the topics discussed and spending a time doing a subsidiary related researchs.

Thanks.

 

Iron

Good content 

maybe this should be day 2

saving the more technical lectures for

later in the week

I'm generally interested in all the different zigbee uses

based on the last two days this should be another solid lecture

Looking forward to day 3

Sorry I missed the webcast. I had jury duty. But I'll be online tomorrow.

John Wolf

Thank you Charles for another informative lecture!

Thanks all for your great feedback!!! Tune in tomorrow for a look "under the hood" as to what happens inside a profile to make it work.  Again, I am available for training and consulting - web site is not quite "ready for prime time" but you can reach me at c.j.lord at ieee.org.  Have a great Wednesday!!!

Iron

PAN ID is THE network ID - MAC addresses are used only for formation and get replaced with short addresses.  This is much like USB where a unique VID, PID, and port are assigned a device number. This is done by the PAN Coordinator at network formation, or at association if the node joins an established network

Iron

Excellent question about setting power - in fact, you can turn the xmitter power DOWN to lower power consumption!  I have done that to tweak that last year or two of battery life.  You can increase power from the nominal 0dBm to the full legal limit (there are modules that do that off the shelf!) but not generally supported in ZigBee.  There are 802.15.4 networks in the SW US controlling irrigation systems over miles!

Iron

Do you mean ZLL is not a real profile and is now replaced by home automation profile ?

PAN ID, EPID - Is it an addition to MAC for network identity?

How network identity is formed and who provides its control?

ZigBee is hard for a small company to integrate as official, certified ZigBee.  Very possible, and required in many areas (Building automation, smart grid, medical for example).  For many cases, if it is all your proprietary network and is not under regulatory control (other than FCC of course), you may want to roll your own.  over 80% of my designs fit this latter mold.

Iron

Can you set the adjust the transmission power in the radio to extend the range between notes!

Iron

My current last slide for Friday sums up the confusion about a lot of the "ZigBee-like" modules out there. And there are a BUNCH.  They are almost - not quite - ZigBee.  All different.  And don't follow what I have been talking about completely.

Iron

Thank you. Very informative. So, what are the peculiaritites that required a specific LED profile?

Iron

You have to re-test and certify a product for any major change.  Much like UL or USB, start again and submit for test.

Iron

ZLL begat home automation. LED is more of an add-on for the specific needs of LED lighting

 

Iron

OK, I think I have found all the q's - here goes:

RFID is a separate technology that uses MUCH lower frequencies (as low as 14Mhz) typically with a fully passive transponder that is RF powered.  Rather than integrate the two (which I see happening also), the initial draft of the retail profile used ZigBee for that function.  I think you will see them integrate.

The main reason for using ZigBee telecom profile over BT is power consumption.  Phones, particularly large display units, have a challenge with battery life.  BT is a power hog, although BTLE is better.  My opinion is that ZigBee telecom may or may not see the light of day... but I am often wrong

 

Iron

Thanks to all who attended, and special thanks to Charles for en excellent program.

Blogger

Does the XB moudules are peer to peer?

Iron

Over the hump day, see y'all tomorrow.

GREAT!!!    Thanks Charles. Gotta get back to the "sun and fun and Girls" on the beach here in Miami. 

Second MikeH's question

Iron

Thanks, good job

Interested in industrial wireless ZigBee uses

 

Iron

Thanks for information.

Questions:

1) Led Lighting control profile is this other name for Zigbee light link (ZLL) ? Is this a newer/beter/bigger standard for home automation ?

2) Do you need to (re) register your product when you change software to a new profile ?


Thanks Rob!

I have a specific question about Did's XB modules, if you are familiar with them. We use them to talk from one remote control to one elevator, but with the Digi software, we configure them both to "End Device" and not "Coordinator". The other day you were saying that every network needed a coordinator. So maybe that term doesn't mean the same thing when programming an XB device? Or maybe the XB modules are deciding that without us knowing about it? Just curious if you are the guy to ask about that. Thanks!

 

Mark Smart

University of Illinois

Tomorrow will go into more detail on profiles?

Iron

Telcom profile seems to overlaps with Bluetooth functionality. What is the differentiator?

Iron

Thanks Charles and Rob!

Iron

on the telecom profile, are ZB radios going to start being placed in mobile handsets?

Iron

Thanks Charles and Rob!

Iron

Are there any open source stacks for non-commercial applications?   If so, can you provide any recommendations or opinions on which ones to avoid and which ones to try?

Iron

thanks all for attending - I will get to your questions in just a moment, as I read through the chat window!

 

Iron

Does all RFID use ZigBee?

Platinum

Very useful information is on this time for me, thanks a lot!

Iron

Thanks Charles and Rob.

Iron

Thanks Charles for today's presentaion.

Iron

How does ZigBee stack up against ANT?

Iron

Many thanks for a great class.

Iron

Thank you Charles and Rob.

Iron

thanks Rob and Charles!

Platinum

Thanks Charles, Rob & Digi-Key!

Iron

Thanks. Nice introduction to the profiles.

Great information, look forward to tommorrow

Iron

Wow. That expanded my imagination horizons on how ZigBee can be used.

Platinum

Charles, thank you for today's presentation

Iron

You have been great.  understanding this at a high level has been great!  I hope to get into more of the details tomorrow.

Platinum

Question: Led Lighting control profile is this other name for Zigbee light link (ZLL) ? Is this a newer/beter/bigger standard for home automation ?

 

Telcom App is a little confusing. It seems to me that it overlaps with Bluetooth. What is the differentiator?

Iron

We're now on slide 16.

Blogger

Does all RFID use ZigBee?

Platinum

Can ZigBee and RFID be integrated for retail applications, ex. to track goods?

Iron

We're now on slide 15.

Blogger

We're now on slide 14.

Blogger

industrial sensors, possibly mesh

Iron

We're now on sl.ide 13.

Blogger

@jclord:  Input Devices in mesh networks

Iron

primarily home automation

Iron

We're now on slide 12.

Blogger

Interest in HA as well with an overview of primary differences between HA and Building automation.

Iron

We're now on slide 11.

Blogger

Sir,

   I lost the lecture note numbers long ago.

Boy I am glad I studied them up in advance.

                                          Thank You Sir

Iron

RF sensors for automation and monitoring

non-profile application

Iron

Input devices looks like closest match for me

Iron

Interested in Industrial Controls.

Iron

I am interested in Healthcare/medical, home automation and retail apps.

Iron

homefoodproduction

 

 
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Iron

I am interested how it can be implemneted in consumer application

Iron

I'm intersted in Building Automation, Home Automation, RF, Input Devices, and LED Lighting control, maybe Health Care.

Platinum

Interested in medical and input devices

Iron

I'm working on buildiing automation. Using Digi XB modules to make an elevator remote control system for the handicapped.

consumer electronics

Iron

Home automation profile possible to work with other profiles.

In home displays

Programmable Communicating Thermostats

Load Control (wall plug, pool pump)

interested in industrial process monitoring and control

 

Iron

I am interested in industrial instrumentation (pressure, temperature, strain) in power and petrochemical processing plants

Iron

Interest predominately in Building Automation- lighting, HVAC, etc

Iron

Smart Energy, Home automation.

Iron

We're now on slide nine.

Blogger

looking at alarm systems, security

Platinum

We're now on slide eight.

Blogger

We're now on slide seven.

Blogger

We're now on slide six.

Blogger

@mmiller: Still slide 6.

Iron

Some notes for today, NOT on slides:
Every packet in 802.15.4 and ZigBee contain specific identifying data:
15.4:
- The node that sent the packet
- The node that receives the packet
- The PAN ID
ZigBee:
- The Profile ID
- The endpoint in the node that receives the data
- The code for the function, command, or response
- Any data associated with that function or command

Consider this "slide 6.5"

Iron

howthearchitectureof

buildingautomationlookslikeifitisneededtobemanagedbyinternet
Iron

We're now on slide six.

Blogger

@Rob Thank you. I'll keep looking for a solution 

Iron

Mine iw finally working a bit better now

Iron

You're way over my head, MayanBlood.

Blogger

whatisthediferencebetween

beaconandnon-beaconnetworks
Iron

@Rob and I press play on IE and chrome at the same time

Iron

@Rob I have a similar problem with IE and my alternate browsers do not play right away when I press the play button, for example my chrome just started playing the presentation from the beginning right now from the beggining of the session I can move the slider to get the most up to data audio

Iron

Rob

working a little better

Iron

We're now on slide five.

Blogger

good afternoon, everyone

Iron

Bluetooth was easy.

How does ZigBee stack up against ANT?

Iron

Refreshin g your browser may help, Acohenjr. Or, you could try Chrome browser.

Blogger

I am having audio drop outs. keep having to hit play

acohenjr

Iron

Windows update a pain

 

Iron

We're now on slide four.

Blogger

Some notes for today, NOT on slides:
Every packet in 802.15.4 and ZigBee contain specific identifying data:
15.4:
- The node that sent the packet
- The node that receives the packet
- The PAN ID
ZigBee:
- The Profile ID
- The endpoint in the node that receives the data
- The code for the function, command, or response
- Any data associated with that function or command

Consider this "slide 6.5"

Iron

We're now on slide three.

Blogger

We're now on slide two.

Blogger

Hello everyone!

acohenjr

Iron

@pfasang - audio player is up now

Hi everyone from Houston

 

@pfasang:   The audio bar will pop up at 2pm EST.   Click on the "play" button and sounds you'll have!   :)

Hi ALL from cloudy Boston!

 

Iron

Please tell me how to connect to your audio site. I looked all over but do not see the audio port that I can click to connect like the first 2 days.  Thank you.

Iron

Greetings from Minnesota - the land of 10 000 frozen lakes!

Iron

Hi from WI. Will probably watch tomorrow from home. Expecting 8-14" of snow & 40 MPH winds tonight/tomorrow!

Iron

Hello from Asheville, NC - the Land of the Sky!

Iron

Hello from Albuquerque, New Mexico.

 

Blogger

-Please join our Digi-Key Continuing Education Center LinkedIn Group at http://linkd.in/yoNGeY

Blogger

-The streaming audio player will appear on this web page when the show starts at 2pm eastern today. Note however that some companies block live audio streams. If when the show starts you don't hear any audio, try refreshing your browser.

Blogger

-Be sure to click 'Today's Slide Deck' under Special Educational Materials above right to download the PowerPoint for today's session.

Blogger

Hello from Scottsdale AZ

Iron

I have a couple of ZigBee modules that I use with an Ardunio wireless shield

Good Day all!! I look forward to our class today!  The slides did not change, so you can download the slides from the link above if you have not already done so.  Thanks!!!

Iron

College Station, TX

 

Iron

Good afternoon East Coasters. Mornin to the western states.

@Locaits - The audio stopping problem can be fix by pulsing the audio player (clicking the audio pulse button) for 5 - 10 seconds (thereby creating some audio buffering), and then clicking the play button again.

 

Iron

Hi from DC!  Looking forward to part 3

 

Iron

Hi from Vancouver, BC, Canada.  First snow !!

 

Iron

Hi from sunny Panama City, FL

Iron

Hello from sunny SE Lake Simcoe, Ontario Canada.   except it's cold and cloudy again. Yech!

Iron

Howdy folks, from the hills of SW Missouri!   :)

Hello all, from Syracuse Utah
Iron

Hello everyone,

I am here in Vancouver.

Iron

Good Morning from Tennessee!

Iron

Good morning from Milwaukee!

Iron

Hello from Arizona!

Platinum

Hi all.  29 DegF and cloudy in Minneapolis today.

Iron

Greetings from Eastern Mass.

Iron

good morning from Laurel, MD

Iron

Good morning from Edmonton, AB

Iron

Good lecture series...

 

Iron

Good Morning from San Jose, CA.

Sunny and Feels like 34°F; High 55°F Low 38°F.

Iron

It was mentioned yesterday that the slides for the rest of the week might need to be updated.  If we downloaded today, do we have the most recent slide deck?

Iron

Is there any fix to the audio stopping problem?  Different browser?

Iron


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