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Ann R. Thryft
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Re: Thinking outside the box
Ann R. Thryft   12/13/2012 1:07:36 PM
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Wow, this sounds like it could be the subject of another Sherlock Ohms--although maybe one that's not possible to solve with any solid conclusions.



tedtw
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Re: IIRC, scalar waves are woo.
tedtw   12/13/2012 10:06:17 AM
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Scalar waves are not woo-woo, but are real. With these waves the E and B fields are in phase. I have personally witnessed these waves creating problems at NASA back in 1994. It really is true - you cannot easily prevent them from interfering or appearing in circuitry. Tesla became an expert at generating these waves. Problem is, if his power transmission system was implemented the health of the area population would degrade considerably.


As for power line interference, the lab with the bipolar square wave pulse was never on the same grid as the airport. Both locations have their own substations, providing a high degree of line isolation. In any case, it would be a stretch for this perfectly symmetrical waveform to be coming in on a power line and appearing on the screen of a high end Tektronix scope. Finally, the bipolar square wave was free  of spurious frequencies, and switched polarity every single time the dish came back around. We watched it for about 10 minutes. How it was generated I do not know.

jlbraun
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IIRC, scalar waves are woo.
jlbraun   12/13/2012 9:39:17 AM
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If the radar was mistuned or too wideband for a particular frequency, you could easily recieve a normal signal only 2 miles away if you were in a wild node of the dish, even underground.

At only 2 miles, you also could have been on the same power grid as the radar and they were dumping transients onto the line.

This is far more likely than immediately jumping to blaming a phemonena that has not been shown to exist.

Woo like this diminishes the credibility of DN.

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Battar
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Battar   12/13/2012 2:24:40 AM
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Just a paranoid thought - if this signal was part of a defence related experiment, should you have published the article at all? You might be making public - to an international audience - info that for our own benefit should be withheld from certain other entities.

electronrodeo
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Re: Thinking outside the box: understanding Scalar
electronrodeo   12/12/2012 3:48:21 PM
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Thanks Warren, as astute observation worth sharing, and the main point of Bearden's scientific position.

The truth is always hidden in plain sight; our understanding is the limiting filter that prevents us from grasping the possibilities. Scientific laws and theory are only our best guess at any given time with in the given paradigm.  If anyone knows how to generate and detect scalar signals I am interested in exploring further.

warren@fourward.com
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Re: Thinking outside the box: understanding Scalar
warren@fourward.com   12/12/2012 1:43:40 PM
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I looked at his website, minus the complete address you gave as it didn't work.  A typing error, undoubtedly.

I found it interesting the first thing he did was quote Einstein:

"...the scientist makes use of a whole arsenal of concepts which he imbibed practically with his mother's milk; and seldom if ever is he aware of the eternally problematic character of his concepts. He uses this conceptual material, or, speaking more exactly, these conceptual tools of thought, as something obviously, immutably given; something having an objective value of truth which is hardly even, and in any case not seriously, to be doubted.

...in the interests of science it is necessary over and over again to engage in the critique of these fundamental concepts, in order that we may not unconsciously be ruled by them."

It makes me wonder how so many scientists and engineers can dismiss the idea of Intelligent Design and adhere to this idea of Einstein's?  It seems so self limiting...

 

OLD_CURMUDGEON
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Re: Thinking outside the box
OLD_CURMUDGEON   12/12/2012 10:36:15 AM
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In reading this blog, and WITHOUT sounding like a paranoid fool, or someone who has gone off the deep end, I IMMEDIATELY wondered (even before I finished reading the article) IF this scalar energy is in fact one of the root causes of cancer in animals (humans, too!)  The fact that there use seems to be cloaked in a very serious shield of secrecy could lead one to believe that while their use is undesirable, their use is also desirable for "national security" purposes.

The other part of this equation for me is that since man's genius has "invented" this technology, maybe it also exists in nature due to some cosmic/solar forces, and this signal strength is naturally causing DNA alterations which lead to disease, not just cancers, but others as well.

I have a personal reason for this opinion.  My father worked on RADAR units for the U.S. Navy during the early days of WW II.  He was stationed in Morocco in a "PBY" outfit.  In the early 1940s, the mere mention of the word RADAR would have gotten you in very serious trouble.  At any rate, I'm sure that the ill effects of this microwave energy was not fully understood at that time.  He died at age 59 of pancreatic cancer almost 40 years ago.  Could this be due to the microwaves AND/OR the prolific use of carbon tetrachloride as a contact cleaning agent which the Navy used by the gallons to clean sensitive electronics?

Who knows??

GeorgeG
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Ordinary waves.
GeorgeG   12/12/2012 9:40:08 AM
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From my University days: mice with neural probes implanted; half a block away a company making and testing microwave and radar based missile launch systems ... duoh.

electronrodeo
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Re: Thinking outside the box: understanding Scalar
electronrodeo   12/12/2012 3:45:42 AM
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APLOGOGIES  The correct link address  for Tom Bearden is

www.cheniere.org/misc/interview1991.htm

 

 

electronrodeo
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Re: Thinking outside the box: understanding Scalar
electronrodeo   12/12/2012 3:36:44 AM
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SCALAR WAVES EXPLAINED: For those of us that are interested in this fascinating and obscure topic, scalar energey and its principles are well explained in the writtings of Col.  Tom Bearden. the best synopisis i've found was an interview which expalined it in lay language. I'd be VERY interested in starting a forum with others here who might share this interest as my techinal depth is limited. This is clearly something very signifciant and very outside the box of conventional thinking... Enjoy .

Www.cheniere.org/interview/1991.htm

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