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Mydesign
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Re: As old as "Apple-Share" circa 1988
Mydesign   12/10/2012 11:00:29 PM
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Jim, eventhough marketing peoples are using “CLOUD” as a buzz word, in real working environment it has many advantages. Especially when it comes under the preview of BYOD or work at home, cloud will help the employees to access the resources or repository, irrespective of device, location, time etc.

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Design in a cloud
Mydesign   12/10/2012 10:57:34 PM
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Richer, Grillo explained about the security and access mechanisms for cloud. But the basic concept of Design in the cloud is yet to be addressed. To my knowledge, it's something like keeping the design tools and design works in a common repository in cloud. Since cloud is scalable, it can be access from anywhere and peoples can work on its image from their own device and finally updating the changes with its original version in cloud. So the changes will get reflect to all its images in a real time scenario.

JimT@Future-Product-Innovations
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As old as "Apple-Share" circa 1988
JimT@Future-Product-Innovations   12/10/2012 6:31:29 PM
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Similar to a response I made just last week, when Richard wrote about "PLM in the cloud" – (same basic idea) – I see the "The Cloud" as just a gimmicky marketing Buzz Word.

For decades, managers have been asking Engineers for the latest & greatest  WIP data. You either get a "real-time" report (where the data resides on the server) or you get a "Snap-shot in time" (where the data resides on my home drive). 

Its simply a matter of where the data resides.  Pros & Cons are obvious; it's about unrestricted control of the data therein.  The concept is as old as "Apple-Share" from the 1980's, but it's been re-packaged as "The Cloud".

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Poorly understood buzzword
Charles Murray   12/10/2012 5:37:54 PM
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Kudos, Rich, for asking a question that many people wonder about, but don't want to ask. The "cloud" means many things to many people.

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Re: bargaining tool
Cabe Atwell   12/10/2012 4:46:06 PM
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In day jobs at larger companies, expensive  cloud collaboration software is a must. Too many people, to many version.

But what can the individual or small business use? The extent if cloud use I have ever used for jobs was a centralized storage location. IE: Google drive, network drives. Do these people have other options?

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bargaining tool
NadineJ   12/10/2012 1:48:39 PM
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Andy Braverman's comment mirrors my experience in Design COnsulting.  Many clients will say that since there's no "hardline" work done that fee should be lower.

It would be great to get more to understand the design process.  Designing the cloud doesn't take less creativity and isn't worth less.

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no files?
naperlou   12/10/2012 10:40:31 AM
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Rich, I am not sure of the statement made by Grillo regarding the storage of information.  In the end, all persistent data is stored in files.  The organization and interpretation of the data is through the program, but that is transparent to the user.  Cloud systems typically have storage integrated, but the location is transparent to the programmer and user.  There are bulk storage clouds, such as Amazon's Simple Storage Service (S3).  On the other hand, it is important to distinguish between a design software vendor that uses a private cloud or one that is hosted on a service such as the Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud (EC2).  I am using Amazon just as an example because they are well known.  Other companies, such as IBM, Gooble, Oracle and others are now offering substantial compute resources in a cloud format. 

Grillo's comment about saving often is interesting.  It makes sense, since you do not have decicated hardware locally.  That might be something the vendors might want to work on.

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