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naperlou
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they don't have to last long
naperlou   12/10/2012 10:29:01 AM
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Your comment about lasting until the next generation of system comes along is interesting.  These devices don't really need to last long, do they?  Few people stick with an old system becuase the new ones are generally much more attractive in features and performance.  They also generally run the games from the last generation.  I have even found that there are emulators for old game systems for the PC.  If you have a powerful graphics processor on your PC, then this becomes feasible.  You can even use the controllers from the older systems on the PC.

Fixing the system by taking it apart is not very comonly done.  Many of the kids I know who are into this would do that, though.  I don't think they are a representive sample.  Probobaly all future engineers.

Cabe Atwell
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Re: they don't have to last long
Cabe Atwell   12/10/2012 4:42:35 PM
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In troubleshooting, always start with the simplest solutions first. Checking the power cord is always first.

Good to know, just in case my XBOX happens to fall victim to the same issue.

But, I must admit, I don't use it much these days. It was almost exclusively a Netflix streaming device. Jokingly referred to as the NetflixBox. But for $60 a year for just that seemed crazy. So, I ended up just getting a used "Boxee" from a friend. Now I can watch Netflix for free, and stream movies off of a USB drive or SD card.

Just my opinion.

C

Charles Murray
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Gaming for 25 years
Charles Murray   12/10/2012 7:10:48 PM
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The line from this story that shocked me was, I've been gaming for 25 years." Yikes, has it been around that long?

TJ McDermott
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Keyed hardware
TJ McDermott   12/11/2012 12:13:06 AM
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I don't like matched hardware in industrial equipment, and I don't like it in home equipment.  If Microsoft wishes to combat piracy, why is the darn thing modular in the first place?

BobDJr
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Re: Gaming for 25 years
BobDJr   12/11/2012 9:48:52 AM
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@Charles: It has actually been longer than that. Space Invaders dates back to 1978, and of course there was Pong before that.

Nancy Golden
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strain relief not always considered in assembly
Nancy Golden   12/11/2012 9:54:06 AM
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Actually, I think your comment may be right on target, "I suspect it has to do with the lack of strain relief of the cords wound around each other." In the last year I have seen a blow dryer and a battery charger both fail due to lack of strain relief of the cords...its really frustrating to see such a simple but essential concept for longevity disregarded when it could so easily be fixed.

We don't even part swap anymore - we just throw away things when they quit working and don't think twice. I remember when my printer went out after only two years of light service - I couldn't believe it. My old faithful HP had lasted 5 years or more. When the sales person at Office Depot informed me that two years was about right - I wanted to say, "Beam me up Scotty - there's no intelligent life here!" It's a different world...I guess some folks would say three years on your XBox is stellar - great job finding a fix!

Nancy Golden
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Re: Gaming for 25 years
Nancy Golden   12/11/2012 9:57:02 AM
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Woo Hoo! Pong! If you set the paddles just right it would play itself which was pretty funny when you speeded it up and it came with a cool plastic rifle too. We were the first kids on the block to get one and thought it was totally cool. That would be the 70's...

Ann R. Thryft
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Re: strain relief not always considered in assembly
Ann R. Thryft   12/11/2012 12:07:41 PM
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I've seen an increase in cord problems due to no built-in strain relief on a variety of consumer electronics devices, including some computer peripherals. It's really really annoying, since many of these cords are not wound around each other. They're just not lined up perfectly flat all day. It's also really really annoying since cords on all electric and electronic devices used to be a heck of lot sturdier.



Nancy Golden
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Re: strain relief not always considered in assembly
Nancy Golden   12/11/2012 12:29:38 PM
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And did you know a common problem is that people put heavy objects on data cords - flattenning those zeros so they look like ones? Seems to me we could have better quality material to prevent that...Okay, I'm kidding...need more coffee LOL!

But seriously, I agree - strain relief is a real problem that is really so fixable...it is annoying! Used to be "check the cord first" was just not thought of - but now it is.

BSmith_DATX
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Xbox 360 Gets $5 Fix
BSmith_DATX   12/11/2012 12:32:12 PM
Since trying to use a paper clip was mentioned I am assuming that the drive in question was the optical drive and therefore the power cable in question would be an internal power cable not an external power cord.  Power cable routing/XBox unit assembly and initial power cable assembly would be the most likley candiadtes for failure and there should be no need for strain relief.  Usually this type of failure can be traced down to incorrect cable assembly.

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