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Ceylon0
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Re: And the Showroom Price Is?
Ceylon0   12/4/2012 11:10:17 AM
Two points:

First, I'm not buying your comments and the contrarian view today would be one arguing in favor of electric given the environmental ignorance being perpetrated on the public by big financial interests. Even if you deny climate change effects, when you flush your toilet the waste doesn't go into the river. It's processed. The same should be true with regard to what we do with the air. It's part of the commons and unless you manufacture your own, conserving the quality is a TRUE conservative position!

Second, the bottom line is one of matching the application coupled with high volume production. You match the car to your need and high volume production will reduce the price. It's simple and has been demonstrated ad nauseum!

jhankwitz
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Re: Yes it is a compliance vehicle!
jhankwitz   12/4/2012 11:02:46 AM
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It should be noted that Toyota's new plug-in Prius is also only sold in California.

Contrarian
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And the Showroom Price Is?
Contrarian   12/4/2012 9:38:27 AM
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The value and success will depend on the price.  If it was priced commensurate with a no-frills economy car, then it might have a chance.  As a $40K or whatever showroom ornament and enviro-weenie status symbol, it's DOA.

If it's like any other BEV out there today, the CEO is only half lying.  It's a compliance car *and* it will never turn a profit.

Mydesign
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Re: Yes it is a compliance vehicle!
Mydesign   12/4/2012 6:13:22 AM
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GT, oho, they are introducing the vehicle only to CA market. Any idea, when they are planning to introduce to other US markets. I think, they are introducing only a limited edition to CA for a market review or to collect user feedbacks.

Mydesign
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Fiat joints to EV sector
Mydesign   12/4/2012 6:10:48 AM
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Charles, finally Fiat also joints with the EV sector by introducing Fiat 500e. Any test drive result data sheet is available for reference. What about  the market opinion and how fiat is distinguishing their product from other competitors.

Rob Spiegel
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Re: Production
Rob Spiegel   12/3/2012 8:49:16 PM
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Nice slide show, Chuck. It's good to see Chrysler/Fiat get in the EV game. I especially like the interior of the car. 

Charles Murray
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Re: Production
Charles Murray   12/3/2012 6:46:34 PM
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Cabe, you've raised a point that is seldom brought up. Right now, the owners of EVs tend to be early adopters who seem to have no issues with re-charging their cars. But will all consumers have the necessary patience to deal with the required recharging times?

Charles Murray
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Re: Good choice
Charles Murray   12/3/2012 6:42:56 PM
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The battery is 24-kWh and is made up of 97 lithium-ion cells, naperlou, so, yes, it's big. It does use some composite materials, according to the press materials, but it's not clear yet where the composites will be used.

Charles Murray
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Re: Production
Charles Murray   12/3/2012 6:34:42 PM
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I do believe this car will go to production, tekochip. Sales, however, may be another matter.

NadineJ
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NadineJ   12/3/2012 6:10:12 PM
I could get excited if the car weren't so unattractive.  Fiat may not be an innovation laeader but this looks like they're just playing catch up.  And, doing it poorly.

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