HOME  |  NEWS  |  BLOGS  |  MESSAGES  |  FEATURES  |  VIDEOS  |  WEBINARS  |  INDUSTRIES  |  FOCUS ON FUNDAMENTALS
  |  REGISTER  |  LOGIN  |  HELP
Page 1/2  >  >>
Charles Murray
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Cool robot, nice video
Charles Murray   12/11/2012 5:49:19 PM
NO RATINGS
Good point, Rob. Here in Chicago, we've used sensors under the pavement to detect cars for at least 30 years.

Rob Spiegel
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Cool robot, nice video
Rob Spiegel   11/30/2012 8:12:35 PM
NO RATINGS
Even civil engineering, Chuck. I was recently talking with a civil engineer who explained the the sophisticated electronic grid of timing stoplights. Plus, some of the stoplights here in Albuquerque have cameras that catch red-light runners and speeders. So, everything is electronics these days.

Charles Murray
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Cool robot, nice video
Charles Murray   11/30/2012 6:51:29 PM
NO RATINGS
Other than civil engineering, I can't think of an engineering curriculum that isn't touched by electronics, Rob.

Rob Spiegel
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Cool robot, nice video
Rob Spiegel   11/29/2012 11:13:08 PM
NO RATINGS
You are absolutely right on the need for cross-discipline education for engineers, Chuck. Electronics is touching nearly everything now.

Charles Murray
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Cool robot, nice video
Charles Murray   11/28/2012 6:42:38 PM
NO RATINGS
This story also makes me wonder about the education of future engineers, Rob. Increasingly, we're seeing that engineers need to be versed in mechanical, electrical and electronic disciplines. This is especially true in the robotics industry. I think more college curriculums will need to be aware of this trend, and need to offer cross-displinary courses and majors.

Jack Rupert, PE
User Rank
Platinum
Re: Appropraite social interaction?
Jack Rupert, PE   11/26/2012 5:01:13 PM
NO RATINGS
Interesting points cadcoke5.  You are quite right with your example (although some indication from the robot that it is ready to accept and input from a particular person might be desireable).  From a socially acceptable viewpoint, it could even be said that giving a robot the respect that is given to a human (please, thank you, etc.) actually degrades humanity.

That being said, how many people enter search queries into their favorite online engine in complete sentences: "How do you..."  "What is the...".  I find that a waste as well. 

Elizabeth M
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Appropraite social interaction?
Elizabeth M   11/25/2012 5:17:26 AM
NO RATINGS
These are all really good points, cadcoke5. Maybe you're right that we can abandon the usual niceities when interacting with robots and just cut to the chase, and that would make robots more efficient and useful to designers goals for them. However, I have to disagree that roboticists want to deceive people into thinking robots are human. Rather, I think they are trying to create them to be more helpful to humans through their increased ability to interact with them as intuitively as possible within the limits of their machine intelligence. Yes, it is not "social interaction" per se as we would define it as such currently, but perhaps those definitions are shifting as robots become more integrated into the every-day life of humans.

cadcoke5
User Rank
Iron
Appropraite social interaction?
cadcoke5   11/23/2012 2:17:29 AM
NO RATINGS
I have always been irked when people tout their robots as being able to interact socially.  The robot in the video really doesn't care if you say hello, and does not need to be thanked.  The eyebrows may pretend to convey emotion, but it is a lie. 

Baby dolls that cry have been around a very long time. But, children, even from a very young age, understand that the object is a toy and not an infant needing human care. They understand the idea of playing pretend. 

But, as robots have become more sophisticated, the ability to truly deceive people is now possible.  Some roboticists seem to have deception as a goal, especially when it comes to a more vulnerable population with the subject of elder care.

I think there are genuine issues concerning interaction with people when it comes to planning how to make a robot understandable to people.  They need to know what to expect, and how to communicate their wishes to the machine. But, this is not really social interaction; any more than putting a dollar into a vending machine is social interaction.  Here is how the dialog should have gone;

Note that if robotic bartenders are not common, a sign nearby should say "Robotic bartender can accept voice requests. Simply state the beverage you want".

Man walks up to vending robot, "Give me a water."
Robot, "Here is your water".
Then the man leaves without saying anything.

All the "hello"s and "thank you"s are inappropriate.

 

Cabe Atwell
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Cool robot, nice video
Cabe Atwell   11/21/2012 3:19:04 PM
NO RATINGS
Glad to see I am not the only one.

 

I would say right now they should focus on better functionality than looks.

 

C

Rob Spiegel
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Cool robot, nice video
Rob Spiegel   11/21/2012 10:19:09 AM
NO RATINGS
Good point, Chuck. The robotic industry keeps throwing unusual -- and often primitive -- motion control functionality at the wall. Some of this is going to gain traction. The auto industry complains about the burden of unionized workers. These days they're turning to suppliers for more and more of the power train development and they're using robots for assembly. In time, automakers may become assembly and marketing companies with the assembly offloaded to robots.

Page 1/2  >  >>


Partner Zone
Latest Analysis
Get a load of these strange product designs. What's in the water these design engineers are drinking?
The Dutch are known for their love of bicycling, and they’ve also long been early adopters of green-energy and smart-city technologies. So it seems fitting that a town in which painter Vincent van Gogh once lived has given him a very Dutch-like tribute -- a bike path lit by a special smart paint in the style of the artist's “Starry Night” painting.
Cal Poly students use 3D printing to take flight -- and pass their class.
Celebrity engineer Grant Imahara will host a series of “webisodes” that will examine new technology and innovation from an engineer’s point of view.
The UX Italia video contest recognizes Italian machinery, technology, and other experience solutions that have contributed meaningful improvements to people’s lives and production processes. If you submit a three-minute video showcasing how the quality of Italian machinery's User eXperience is essential to your company's success, you just may win a trip to Italy.
More:Blogs|News
Design News Webinar Series
11/19/2014 11:00 a.m. California / 2:00 p.m. New York
11/6/2014 11:00 a.m. California / 2:00 p.m. New York
10/7/2014 8:00 a.m. California / 11:00 a.m. New York
12/11/2014 8:00 a.m. California / 11:00 a.m. New York
Quick Poll
The Continuing Education Center offers engineers an entirely new way to get the education they need to formulate next-generation solutions.
Dec 1 - 5, An Introduction to Embedded Software Architecture and Design
SEMESTERS: 1  |  2  |  3  |  4  |  5  |  6


Focus on Fundamentals consists of 45-minute on-line classes that cover a host of technologies. You learn without leaving the comfort of your desk. All classes are taught by subject-matter experts and all are archived. So if you can't attend live, attend at your convenience.
Last Archived Class
Sponsored by Littelfuse
Learn More   |   Login   |   Archived Classes
Twitter Feed
Design News Twitter Feed
Like Us on Facebook

Sponsored Content

Technology Marketplace

Copyright © 2014 UBM Canon, A UBM company, All rights reserved. Privacy Policy | Terms of Service