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zeeglen
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Re: Distracted drivers
zeeglen   2/27/2013 7:39:39 PM
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@ GTOIover

Easy.  The driver pulls over, stops the vehicle, and the passenger makes the call.  If they stop at a bar the passenger can have a drink too, something else the passenger cannot do in the vehicle.

GTOlover
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Re: Distracted drivers
GTOlover   2/27/2013 9:44:42 AM
Yes! We should have a national registry of all phone owners. Make them get a permit to own a car and a phone at the same time. We would have to close that phone show loop hole as well. Every time they get into a car they have to secure their phones with an approved locking device. Oh and make sure to ban any phone that is scary looking. Then we could maybe have police do random inspections to make sure that all phones in vehicles are secure!

Afterall, why insist on people taking responsibility for their own actions, blame the devices and the manufaturers.

By the way, how does a passenger make a call if we follow your advice?

zeeglen
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Re: Distracted drivers
zeeglen   2/1/2013 7:59:01 PM
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@Robare,

Good points, but unless mandated by law no manufacturer will do this, and will take some time for all phones to incorporate this.

A similar function can be done to all phones, regardless of make or inclusion of GPS, if instead the cell service providers were mandated to disable service (except 911) to a moving phone.

Ann R. Thryft
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Re: Blind Spot Mirrors: solutions?
Ann R. Thryft   12/28/2012 12:24:28 PM
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Thanks for that input, Chuck, that makes sense. OTOH, I'm not sure the entire infrastructure is worth building to solve primarily that problem. I think better mass transit systems are an excellent alternative.

wheely
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Re: solutions?
wheely   12/19/2012 10:27:55 AM
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 I agree with Nadine & Ann. What happened to PAY ATTENTION. There is one thing that most people do daily that can hurt/kill them & it's drive a car. It' like eveyone wants to do anything but operate the car.

Charles Murray
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Re: Blind Spot Mirrors: solutions?
Charles Murray   12/18/2012 6:51:12 PM
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Ann, your situation is actually a good example of the value of the DSRC-based (dedicated short range communications) intelligent highway. On the intelligent highway, both of your cars would have known the other's intentions, even if the you, the drivers, could not see each other.

Ann R. Thryft
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Re: Blind Spot Mirrors: solutions?
Ann R. Thryft   12/5/2012 1:31:11 PM
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cvandewater, I know what you mean, having driven in all kinds of traffic for 40-plus years, much of dangerous and high-speed and/or rural while crossing creeks or navigating twisty windy steep mountain roads. In the incident I referred to, we were both signalling, but could not see each other's signal because we were almost parallel in the two lanes, and both slowing down at the same rate assuming the other guy would keep going at the previous rate. Point is, no matter what the safety designs are or how much attention is being paid, stuff happens at high speed in 4D.

cvandewater
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Re: Blind Spot Mirrors: solutions?
cvandewater   12/5/2012 12:50:30 PM
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Ann, participating in traffic is inherently risky because people make mistakes and heavy objects at high speeds are involved. Still, most accidents are avoidable (as long as at least one participant is in control of his vehicle *and* aware of the danger) when paying attention to what is happening around and able to respond in time. That is one reason that I hate the behavior of "diving" abruptly into a lane that I see some drivers do (even without signaling) and I will always change lane slow enough that others and I can anticipate the situation that someone else also started the process of moving into the same lane at the same time - both have some time to see what is happening and compensate before any vehicles are touching each other - in contrast to the behavior of jerking the vehicle into the new spot. The only drawback is that I run a greater risk of getting the blame in case of an accident that I moved into the lane after it was already occupied (by someone moving faster). I can deal with that because in most cases I can avoid the accident from happeing in the first place.

I agree that blind spots cannot eliminated entirely and that is also why I quoted the European regulation that since a few years requires the blind spot mirrors on the bigger vehicles that were relatively often involved in this type of accident and due to their size and construction, caused the most threat of loss of life.

Legal action on reduction of distraction might be necessary - interesting idea that was suggested on the blog for disabling cell phone from normal calling when in a moving vehicle. Even though handheld calling was outlawed in California, I see a large group of drivers break that law on daily basis, so the technological solution is one way to remove that threat from our roads.

Ann R. Thryft
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Re: Blind Spot Mirrors: solutions?
Ann R. Thryft   12/5/2012 12:27:31 PM
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I've done that very careful adjustment of the side mirrors to almost eliminate the blind spot. But "almost" isn't good enough, and as another person commented, it's gotten harder to turn my neck around. Plus, taking your eyes off the road is just not a good idea, especially that far. So that's why I got the little stick-on ones. Integrating them seems self-evidently necessary.
Then there are the situations they'll never solve, like you and the car in the lane next to you deciding to change lanes--into each other's lane--simultaneously.

robare
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Distracted drivers
robare   12/5/2012 2:20:54 AM
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It seems that a simple solution can be had by changing the software in a cell phone.

Since most cell phones have GPS features, disabling the phone (except for 911 features) when movement is detected would keep the drivers focused on driving.

By disable I mean nothing works. Not even an incoming ring.

So, if you are expecting a call you simply pull over to check.

I know, people that have a phone permanently stuck to their ear will hate me for this but I've watched walkers crash into walls and tumble down stairs.

robare

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