HOME  |  NEWS  |  BLOGS  |  MESSAGES  |  FEATURES  |  VIDEOS  |  WEBINARS  |  INDUSTRIES  |  FOCUS ON FUNDAMENTALS
  |  REGISTER  |  LOGIN  |  HELP
Comments
View Comments: Newest First|Oldest First|Threaded View
<<  <  Page 2/2
rScotty
User Rank
Silver
Re: Debuggubg
rScotty   10/9/2012 9:39:39 AM
NO RATINGS
Where you say, "They (the older cars) were not instrumented enough to tell you what was wrong.  You ended up swapping out parts until the problem was fixed."

I'll take the other side of this one just for fun....of course we both already know it doesn't have to be guesswork.

There is another way, and that was to learn more about that peculiar mechanical/electrical system, dig deeper, and eventually find enough additional clues so that the problem more or less diagnosed itself. Next do one simple test to confirm the logic, and then just repair only the offending part. 

That way had value beyond the immediate job. In fact, I wonder sometimes if we have lost something when we lost that type of self-taught technical training. The mind set that accompanies that type of repair seems to have been more common a few decades back than it is today. Years ago, every really good automotive repair shop had to have a person with extraordinary abilities in basic diagnosis - in small shops it was often the owner himself.

Part of the value was that more than a few of the repair shop owners eventually ended up doing engineering design. I know I did.

Luck,   rScotty 

Charles Murray
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Debuggubg
Charles Murray   10/8/2012 6:38:57 PM
NO RATINGS
I agree, Lou. There are a lot of electronic components in today's vehicles, but that's not always bad. With today's diagnostic systems, you're more likely to find the culprit faster.  

gsmith120
User Rank
Platinum
Re: Debuggubg
gsmith120   10/8/2012 1:41:23 PM
NO RATINGS
I hate trial and error approach.  I experienced this when an auto shop's machine gave multi-choice for problem and solution.  End result was doing the repair for both of the problems but neither completely cleared the problem.

Cadman-LT
User Rank
Platinum
Re: Debuggubg
Cadman-LT   10/8/2012 1:12:15 PM
NO RATINGS
I agree. I have ended up buying parts and parts for my car until I finally found the one causing the problem. I think the worst part (other than the wasted money) is when you think the most recent new part fixed the problem only to find out later that it didn't.

naperlou
User Rank
Blogger
Debuggubg
naperlou   10/8/2012 10:59:12 AM
NO RATINGS
That was always a problem with older model cars.  They were not instrumented enough to tell you what was wrong.  You ended up swapping out parts until the problem was fixed.  The problem there was that many of the parts swapped out were not bad and you have expended the money to get them.  I  had always bought used sports cars and worked on them myself.  I was modifying them as well as repairing them.  When I was having trouble getting to work with two cars and two motorcycles, I decided to buy a new car.  I think my expenses went down. 

<<  <  Page 2/2


Partner Zone
Latest Analysis
Hacking has a long history in the movies, beginning with Tron and War Games and continuing through The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
In a move that strengthens its 3D design business, Stratasys continued a 15-month buying spree this week by announcing its plan to acquire GrabCAD, a provider of a cloud-based collaboration environment for engineers.
Feature-advantage-benefit could help engineers in how we approach design problems, how we sell our ideas to management, and how we market ourselves when it comes to jobs.
Many diverse markets take advantage of semiconductor IP; so many that no one can recite the entire list without leaving off several. So why do we track all the vertical markets? They all have a unique set of requirements and value attributes differently. One major vertical market segment is automotive.
Adam Berger hacked a computer keyboard into a mini key-tar to play with his band.
More:Blogs|News
Design News Webinar Series
9/10/2014 11:00 a.m. California / 2:00 p.m. New York
7/23/2014 11:00 a.m. California / 2:00 p.m. New York
7/17/2014 11:00 a.m. California / 2:00 p.m. New York
6/25/2014 11:00 a.m. California / 2:00 p.m. New York
Quick Poll
The Continuing Education Center offers engineers an entirely new way to get the education they need to formulate next-generation solutions.
Sep 22 - 26, MCU Software Development A Step-by-Step Guide (Using a Real Eval Board)
SEMESTERS: 1  |  2  |  3  |  4  |  5  |  6


Focus on Fundamentals consists of 45-minute on-line classes that cover a host of technologies. You learn without leaving the comfort of your desk. All classes are taught by subject-matter experts and all are archived. So if you can't attend live, attend at your convenience.
Next Class: September 30 - October 2
Sponsored by Altera
Learn More   |   Login   |   Archived Classes
Twitter Feed
Design News Twitter Feed
Like Us on Facebook

Sponsored Content

Technology Marketplace

Copyright © 2014 UBM Canon, A UBM company, All rights reserved. Privacy Policy | Terms of Service