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Thank you Carol, I can't wait to start using Desing Spark

Iron

Yes already downloaded very nice tool.

Iron

good presentation - the format is fine given the screen captures, colored/highlighted arrows and use of colored indicator ovals.  The lecture portion ties the slide content together well enough ...

also glad you went over ground nets, same is true for Vcc nets as often they may get over-looked unless one is aware / careful

mounting holes for stand-offs or enclosure mounting might be nice

glad you mentioned thermal pads and vias

URL for PCBArtist User Tips Guide has changed from what is in the presentation, and apparently page numbers have changed as well.  Look here http://www.4pcb.com/pcb-software-tips-tools.html for the updated version and other resources, or search Google for "pcbartist user tips".

Iron

Good presentation, Thank you Carol and Rob

Planning to use PCB design tools for MCU and POWER project

Downloaded DesignSpark and played with it.

Howdy archived class!

Iron

I have not downloaded the software.

Iron

Thanks for another great lecture 

I havent downloaded design spark software yet

Looking forward to another good lecture

Picking up another one

Hello from Mesquite NV,
Iron

I have downloaded DesignSpark and will use it for a project or more.

Iron

There are tutorials with DesignSpark.

Iron

When I download DesignSpark, does it come with tutorials ?

Iron

Thanks you Carol; excellent presentation.

Iron

I've never used DesignSpark; I'll try to use it soon.

Iron

Thank You see you tomorrow. Rod. R.

Iron

I did down load the Design Spark software and have looked into it.

Iron

Great topic and outline design rule.

Iron

Good afternoon from Edmonton, AB. Better late than never, hello Carol, Rob and all who are still here.

Iron

Thanks everyone for participating in today's program. And most of all, thanks to Carol for an excellent presentation. See you all tomorrow.

Blogger

Have not downloaded design spark yet, but I believe I will just to look at it.

Iron

You're welcome to MayanBlood, Batye, Jamie, and everyone who chimed in and listened in. Thanks for coming.

Blogger

@garysxt, hear hear! Always double check. Tomorrow, I'll go over reviewing the gerber files! Always review your gerbers. These are lessons you usually learn the hard way.

Blogger

I'm coming at layout from an engineer's perspective. I've found that most layout professionals are not from that background. They tend to happen into it. There doesn't seem to be a education path for it.

 

Blogger

I agree with Carol and Zwilrich on separate custom libraries.  If it is in there I know it is correct.  I have found errors in the parts in some libraries.  Never trust a part until you verify it - especially ones you create yourself. :-)

Iron

Yes, Library Management is a must. Especially in DesignSpark where you are depending on pointers and the order of the library paths are important, you can really screw up your design if you are not careful about separating out projects.

To make matters more complicated, you can have multiple libraries in one folder, and I don't think there is a way to only used a particular library file and not others in the same folder.

Blogger

:) 

always learning!

Iron

@RMass, Sorry if it's not exactly the same. I've used it for many projects and I tried to remove all the customizations short of re-install. Looks like I missed a few. Hard for me to tell. Hopefully you have learned enough to fill in the blanks.

Blogger

Working with Eagle, I've found it makes life much easier to follow Carol's idea of putting all of your parts in a custom library.  You spend much less time looking for the right part.  Also, in older versions of Eagle, the parts were on a metric layout.  This caused all sorts of headaches when doing a layouts with imperial measurements.

I use a separate library for each major project.  Having a separate library makes it much easier to find the part you need.  It also means if you change a part in one project, it doesn't mess up a different project.

Iron

@ JSP. Your welcome. Good to know you find it useful. Let's hope DesignSpark keeps adding to the features and continues support!

Blogger

Sounds like there is a wide range of experience here, and applications. That's very interesting. I hope most people have learned something.

Blogger

The DesignSpark I downloaded has different features, Librarys than the one in the presentation.

Just saying it can be a bit annoying trying to perform the steps on the tool and participate in the lecture at the same time.

Iron

I'm really enjoying this. Didn't know these free SaaS packages were out there. For this level of effort, I had just used ExpressPCB layouts etc in the past, but this is heaps better, almost professional. Perfectly fine for this level of board complexity. Thanks for putting this together Carol.

Iron

The archive of this program is available now.

Blogger

except the fact that the pcb program used here is for hobbyists, all the professional packages work the same way.    here people will get the idea how to use something like this and what are the basic steps to get a board from a schematic and the schematic from an idea.  

 

Well put!

Blogger

What Software does this Design Spark uses. I tried loading it on Windows 7 Enterprise and it gives me error.

Iron

I've enjoyed the DesignSpark tutorial seminar, but it would have been better as a video. 

Iron

Hello everyone!  Let me catch up on the chat.

Blogger

Using pcb design for I/O , TC and RTD test pcbs

Thanks for this class and thanks for fixing the problem with the audio!

Iron

Everything from simple UV LED boards (no drivers) to complex embedded systems for testing 40 laser diodes at at time.

Iron

Thank you for the training session. Back again tomorrow.

Iron

@Rob: Really just wanted background to better understand what my hardware engineer colleagues go through to get a board ready for my software/firmware.

Iron

Use PCB layout mostly for microcontroller based applications.

Iron

I used Eagle to design a PCB that plugs in to a Microchip Explorer16 Dev Board.  It has a little DS1825 temp sensor on it.  Had to fab a board because no other way to solder those tiny pins!

Iron

Thank you Carol. Enjoyed lecture very much...

Bench Test Boards. Demo board.

Iron

@Rob - mostly embedded - mixed signal, SMT, 14-layer+, thin traces, lotsa custom libs.

Iron

Application specific boards (sensors, microprocessor/microcontroller, interface)

Iron

Mostly experimentation layouts

Iron

@Rob - Using the design to build a MCU based sensor array.

Iron

used for general design (everithing)

Iron

Hello from Milwaukee (a little late)

Iron

Microcontrollers and related peripheral interfaces

Iron

Thanks, Carol - great session today.

 

Iron

@Rob - Working format is fine.

Iron

except the fact that the pcb program used here is for hobbyists, all the professional packages work the same way.    here people will get the idea how to use something like this and what are the basic steps to get a board from a schematic and the schematic from an idea.  

Iron

Thkx Carol, Rob, Duzyn Nuwz, Digikey.

Iron

@ ajohnson151 - if you have room and can do it, why not ?

Iron

We're now on slide 19.

Blogger

Can i run all the traces on the top layer?

this format it is ok.

Iron

The format is just fine for most of the courses. A live demo of what Carol is doing would be better for the kind of things Carol is showing in this class.

Iron

We're now on slide 18.

Blogger

@Rob - PDF slides may be better (less dependency on M$)

Iron

Format is fine, had to switch from IE to Chrome for audio - no biggie.

Iron

Might "print the PowerPoint to PDF" for some folks - have two "Today's Slide Deck" formats, otherwise it's excellent!!

I would prefer an actual Webinar where we can see what Carol is doing as she speaks.

While slides and audio work after a fashion it seems pretty primitive considering the technology we have today.

Iron

The format is good.. 

Iron

Yeah, seeing Carol doing it live would be pretty cool too.

Iron

I like the format.  Fancier versions get defeated by my employer's over restrictive IT policies.

Iron

@Rob - this format is fine for me... a live video may be better but could cause more issues that what we have now (recently) with audio

Iron

@Rob: This format is fine.

Iron

I like the Powerpoint as a guide and reference, but would also like to see live interaction with the application.

Iron

Aside from some technical snafu's, how is this classroom format working for you on this subject?

Blogger

We're now on slide 16.

Blogger

Hello everyone! Almost made it on time today...

Iron

The archive of this program will be available within moments of when Carol finishes her lecture. I'll let you know when it's archived. Shortly after 2:30 Eastern.

Blogger

We're now on slide 15.

Blogger

I got behind on audio too, and now it is trying to buffer, but is buffering slower than the audio plays. I'll just listen in later when the audio is available. Thanks Carol!

Iron

We're now on slide 14.

Blogger

But if we listen carefully to Carol, we dont need manual queuing... Get along with Carol.. 

Iron

OK, I'll try the slide announcements again.

Blogger

@Rob: The slide announcements are generally helpful, even if your latency is a little lower than ours.

Iron

Seems the program text and audio is not sync'ed for all users. I'll quit confusing things with slide announcements.

Blogger

I think this setup is the best and comfortable for both the lecturer and the student. We have control over slide show and audio is gr8 after the player upgrade..

Iron

I'm now on slide eight.

Iron

We're now on slide 10.

Blogger

The_John -- Sorry about the tech snafu's. Try refreshing your browser or you could see if switching to the Chrome browser works.

Blogger

audio is ok here, issues at all...

Iron

@The_John, it is free man.  I am just glad they are willing to provide it at all.  Reload the page a couple of times. That did it for me.

Iron

You guys have REALLY got to get your technology fixed.  The audio cutting out is REALLY annoying...

Iron

We're now on slide eight.

Blogger

@Carmine: Likely you have experienced some dropped audio so that your audio feed is now a little behind. Rob is likely synchronized with Carol.

Iron

@Carmine, That is because we are hearing the audio after buffered in our browser... Chat is almost direct..

Iron

Thanks for letting me know, Carmine.

Blogger

@Rob, The the text in this chat is ahead of Carol's audio.  Your Slide Number announcements are ahead of Carol.

Iron

We're now on slide six.

Blogger

We're now on slide four.

Blogger

@Rob, The the text in this chat is ahead of Carol's audio.  Your Slide Number announcements are ahead of Carol.

Iron

Just started????  Where is the beginning (slide 1,2,3,) of lecture???

The new radio player looks good.

Iron

Tried DesignSpark a while back and liked it, but don't do that kind of work often.

Iron

We're now on slide three.

Blogger

the clouds are the little thick view not so good

I've d/l'ed a free version of Eagle, and played with that.  Didn't have any need for scripts, and created a complete 2-layer board.  Haven't tried DesignSpark yet.

Iron

We're now on slide two.

 

Blogger

I have downloaded DesignSpark and have used it.

Iron

Have not downloaded DesignSpark yet.  Still using Eagle.

Iron

@Dan - Do you get a good view of the Rings ?

Iron

Yes, I downloaded DesignSpark and have been working through it.

Iron

We're now on slide one.

Blogger

Hello from Albuquerque.

Iron

i hope we don't have any sound issues today

Hello Everyone from Louisiana...

Hello from Mesquite NV
Iron

good day from edmonton, ab

Iron

Hello from Wyoming

 

Iron

Good morning from SoCal.

For those with audio that just shows Buffering...   be sure to try Pause, wait, Play -- it seems to get mine going again.

Iron

Hello from Albuquerque

Blogger

Good Morning from Sunny San Jose, Ca.

It's 56°F right now and will peak to 80°F.

Iron

Oops, sorry about the font size, I didn't mean to shout!!   :)

An alternative is here:  http://www.openoffice.org/

 

Remember, "right tool for the job!"    :) joe

I'm running WIN7 with IE9, Flash 11.4.402.278 and MSOffice 2010 and I don't have a single problem.   This isn't a Pro-Microsoft (or anti-other_OS) post - I figure if my tools aren't doing the job, I won't either.   If you can't/won't use MSOffice 2010 you can fetch the Office viewers here http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/downloads/office-online-file-converters-and-viewers-HA001044981.aspx  PowerPoint is listed.    :) joe

 

I am using Chrome and I hear the "Blog Talk Radio" announcement and then it does not stream anything else. If I wait until the presentation has been archived I can listen to the audio.

Iron

For those of you who have experienced trouble hearing the audio portion of these presentations, you might try using the Chrome browser. Those using the Chrome browser seem to have little problem hearing the audio.

Blogger

-Be sure to click 'Today's Slide Deck' under Special Educational Materials above right to download the PowerPoint for today's session.

Blogger

-The streaming audio player will appear on this web page when the show starts at 2pm eastern today. Note however that some companies block live audio streams. If when the show starts you don't hear any audio, try refreshing your browser.

Blogger

-Please join our Digi-Key Continuing Education Center LinkedIn Group at http://linkd.in/yoNGeY

Blogger

Good morning from Wisconsin!

Iron


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