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Rob Spiegel
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Re: The messier the better
Rob Spiegel   9/10/2012 11:47:51 AM
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That's pretty good, Erichv. Finding a piece of chocolate long after it has become forbidden is bound to be quite a treat. 

rebowker
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Re: Messy Desks
rebowker   9/10/2012 11:08:38 AM
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Kid, my friend, I'm sorry I have to disagree a little on one point, my experience has been messy vs. clean are just two different strategies of organization. I do think this whole blog misses the point, our highly revered (rightfully so) engineering forefathers with the messy desks were able to find whatever it was they were looking for, or whatever it was someone asked them for. Clean or messy, Felix Unger or Oscar Madison, ask them for, say, that obscure nitnoid specification on that component released several years before and see how long it takes for them to find it. Felix would go digging through the numerous hanging files in the desk drawers, Oscar through the numerous piles on top of the desk.

kid-jensen
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Messy Desks
kid-jensen   9/10/2012 4:41:46 AM
Messy desks are the natural resuklt of work being done and things being acheived.

Clear desks are just the clearest indicator that the occupant has nothing to do...

 

The "Clear Desk Policy" was invented so these slackers don't attract attention to themselves...

NadineJ
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Re: The messier the better
NadineJ   9/9/2012 11:12:28 PM
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It would be nice if a messy desk was a sign of genius. 

I'm constantly writing ideas, reminders, etc on post-its and putting them around my screen.  Is that a sign of an inovative mind?  During busy periods, my 27" display looks more like a 19".

Jack Rupert, PE
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Cleaning Up.
Jack Rupert, PE   9/7/2012 12:27:27 PM
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I've had a number of conversations over the years and have found that some managers like to use "relocation" every couple years to keep the messy desks to a minimum.  While I'm not one to win a competion such as this, I don't necessarily have neat little piles either.  Just a happy medium.  Since I have been doing some contract work lately, it does force a higher standard since you only bring what you really need.

erichv
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Re: The messier the better
erichv   9/7/2012 9:32:57 AM
All a bunch of Amateurs!

"Those who subscribe to a Clean Desk Policy can never experience the delight of finding something that was thought to be irretrievably lost!" - Unknown.

Serendipity means a "happy accident" or "pleasant surprise"; specifically, the accident of finding something good or useful while not specifically searching for it.

In fact, in the days I was still allowed to eat chocolate peanuts and raisins, I would tip the whole packet on my desk above my keyboard and, lo and behold, finding a stray one weeks later... tastes so much better!

:) I sent in my photos!

Erich
Cape Town, South Africa

Charles Murray
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What about messy editor desks?
Charles Murray   9/6/2012 8:24:17 PM
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Jenn, if we had a contest for messy editors' desks, I'd dominate.

Rob Spiegel
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The messier the better
Rob Spiegel   9/6/2012 1:17:38 PM
Jennifer, I love that thought that the messier the desk the more genius involved. There may be something to that point of view. German researchers claim a messy desk leads to clearer thinking:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2088359/Messy-desks-office-actually-lead-employees-think-clearly-say-researchers.html?ITO=1490

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