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naperlou
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Is human motion the best motion
naperlou   9/4/2012 8:42:58 AM
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While this is very interesting, one thing that the researchers did not address is a comparison of human motion and more traditional machine motion.  While humans are very flexible, they are often not very precise.  A more interesting question is what is the optimal type of motion. 

Rob Spiegel
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Re: Is human motion the best motion
Rob Spiegel   9/4/2012 3:38:58 PM
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I'm with you Naperlou. I would think there may be better vision models in nature than the human eye movement. The insect or bird worlds probably have superior versions of eye movement than human eye movement.

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News release- God was right after all!
warren@fourward.com   9/5/2012 6:55:31 PM
No matter which animal or human example you use, the Creator got it right the first time.  It is a wise choice to not try and reinvent the wheel.  It has already been invented!  So, copy nature build a better mouse trap.  The trick is to understand how He did it.  That isn't so easy.  There are reasons for everything nature does.  Engineers need to take time and look around.  It is amazing what the world has to teach us!

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Robotic Camera Mimics Human Eye Movements
vimalkumarp   9/6/2012 12:04:48 AM
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This is an excellent example of biomimetic project and will answer eventually to many problems.

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Re: Is human motion the best motion
asupnekar   9/7/2012 5:10:23 AM
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Yes, I am also fully agree with you both (Rob and Naperlou). In this case we can take the best example from nature i.e of a fish. If we consider the motion of fish eye its almost end to end from all directions and if this current invention matches with that then i feel that's the big acheivement. 

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Re: Is human motion the best motion
Jack Rupert, PE   9/7/2012 11:52:39 AM
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I was actually thinking that there are a lot of weaknesses in trying to copy the motion the human eye.  The two main things that popped into my mind was the relative lack of peripheral vision (compared with other animals) the the fact that it still needs to be mounted on a "neck" to see much of the field.

naperlou
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Re: News release- God was right after all!
naperlou   9/7/2012 1:11:55 PM
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Acctually, it depends on what you are doing.  The greatest advancement of science, wealth and welfare in history has come since the digital revolution.  If you want to get philosophical, the universe is inherently mathematical.  By applying digital techniques we have made tremendous advances.  Frankly, there are lots of things we want done that are better done by computers than by natural methods.  Nature tends to be very inefficient, using more resources to do a task than is strictly necessary.  Natural language, for example, is terriably inefficient as far as information content. 

Even in the area of accumulating and using knowledge, we have advanced more in the digital age, which encompasses the last sixty years or so, than in all of previous human history.  I don't see this as "unnatural".  We got here by using our natural talents and intelligence, but there is something about thinking digitally and mathematically that has given our knowledge a whole new dimension.

warren@fourward.com
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Re: News release- God was right after all!
warren@fourward.com   9/7/2012 1:21:13 PM
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Actually, Noah started the digital age when he brought the animals on two by two.  :-)

Rob Spiegel
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Re: Is human motion the best motion
Rob Spiegel   9/7/2012 1:22:50 PM
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Good point, Asupnekar. There seems to be a proclivity to mimicking human movement and capabilities with robots. Yet other natural occurrences -- like your vision example of a fish -- are likely to be superior to human capabilities.

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Re: Is human motion the best motion
Scott Orlosky   9/16/2012 9:36:06 AM
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This is an interesting development, though it's helpful to understand that vision encompasse more than eye movement. There is the ability to accommodate wide variations in ambient light, to change focus on-the-fly smoothly, and to use the internal image-processing "firmware" of the brain to re-map conflicting or confusing imagery into a rational construct. Eyes are pretty amazing organs that must balance the interplay of a lot of variables to create what we call vision.

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