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Beth Stackpole
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Re: Aligning mechanical and electrical designing
Beth Stackpole   9/10/2012 6:22:49 AM
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From what I hear from engineers and the vendors like SolidWorks, the two domains don't work completely in isolation (that would be impossible in today's day and age of highly complex products), but the tools are not anywhere close to integrated thus requiring a lot of manual passing back and forth of data and no where near in real time. Those traditional workflows with non-integrated tools open the door for a lot of mistakes and omissions--all of which lead to potential design problems. The idea between these integrated tool sets is to minimize those inconsistencies and get everyone on the same page.

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Re: Is the wall still there?
Rob Spiegel   9/7/2012 1:36:03 PM
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Beth, that makes perfect sense. Do you have any idea how this is going from a change management point of view? I would guess that the senior engineers are not as bullish on the collaboration tools as the younger engineers who probably worked with collaboration tools during their college years.

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Re: Is the wall still there?
Beth Stackpole   9/7/2012 7:11:19 AM
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The real issue today is that engineering organizations really can't afford to stay stuck in the same types of over-the-wall collaboration processes and siloed tools. There are too many interdependencies in designs and so much integration required that trying to put systems together at the end of the development cycle is far too risky in terms of meeting rigorous time-to-market schedules, not to mention, incurring the cost of expensive tooling or late-stage design changes.

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Re: Is the wall still there?
Rob Spiegel   9/6/2012 1:02:04 PM
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Yes, collaboration usually has to become company policy in order to make sure it occurs. People otherwise would continue to stay with their old habits. I worked for a company that required collaboration on research documents. Each person involved had to offer comments and sign off on each draft, which forced collaboration.

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Re: Is the wall still there?
Beth Stackpole   9/6/2012 7:12:37 AM
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Absolutely correct, Rob. As with any of these design tools that promote multi-disciplinary collaboration, the tool is just the tool. It's the cultural and change management issues that are really the bigger hurdle.

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Re: Is the wall still there?
Rob Spiegel   9/4/2012 10:30:08 AM
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I would imagine the tools themselves don't necessarily change the long-held behaviors. In the automation and control world, some of the vendors also provide change-mangement plans when the new technology requires behaviorial change. 

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Re: Is the wall still there?
Beth Stackpole   9/4/2012 7:17:21 AM
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@Rob: You raise a good point. The wall is still there, but many of the CAD tools (not just SolidWorks) have been making good strides to break down the walls. Problem has been that the even though the two worlds have existed forever and siloed tools been used forever, as products become more complex, it becomes harder and harder to do the design work in mechanical and electrical independently and avoid running into big, costly problems. Also, PLM platforms have capabilities for managing both kinds of data which is helping blend the silos.

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Aligning mechanical and electrical designing
William K.   8/28/2012 8:45:17 PM
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Our electrical and mechanical designs have worked togather for years. Those organizations that choose to allow empire building and isolation are suffering from a deffective culture. OF course, ours were always smaller organizations where the electrical and mechanical people were fairly close to each other, and casual discussions could be started at almost any time. In addition, we had similar goals, and the project leader would always start out a project with a meeting giving all of us a direction to start in. Also, we all had an input as to what the sales man would sell. So we had a headstart on what we would be doing.

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True engineering integration of products
wbswenberg   8/28/2012 11:38:31 AM
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Still the problem is getting the engineers to the prototype and prodution floor.  They need to envision and comfirm how the techs assemble the product.  I think new engineers should perhaps spend time assembling the product.  Another venue is problem reporting.  And perhaps the experence engineers should revist.  I just had a bit of an education on how the techs decided to wye out a cable.  Not how I would have done it.  But is was faster and easier work.  So now I design with additional flexibility as to how a cable is assemblied.

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Is the wall still there?
Rob Spiegel   8/27/2012 4:13:58 PM
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Given the fact that electrical and mechanical systems have been running together in products for decades, I'm suprised the design wall between electrical and mechanical still exists at all. Are there other products that also break down this wall?

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