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Beth Stackpole
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Not breaking out of the box
Beth Stackpole   8/21/2012 7:35:41 AM
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From your analysis, looks like RIM is sticking with the same old, same old, here, which is pretty unfathomable given that their future is hanging on a thread. They really need some blockbuster products to turn the tide back in their favor. This apparently isn't going to do it; I'm wondering if the long-awaited Blackberry 10 is going to be enough to break out of the box.

naperlou
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Re: Not breaking out of the box
naperlou   8/21/2012 8:47:57 AM
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I saw a pre-release Playbook at a SAP conference.  It was nice.  I like the smaller format tablets.  They are more portable and that is what the tablet is all about.

Frankly, I think that RIM is DOA.  Their main innovation was the provision of e-mail through the cellular network.  Their devices were nice (I have a 8310 Curve), but they are not as sophiscated as most of the smart phones available today.  Their only claim to fame to fame is really security.  I had an early smart phone (a carrier brand) where I could do e-mail.  With the BYOB trend in the industry, many of the attributes that RIM brought to the table are no longer unique or considered important.  As the reviewer says, they should have gone quad core.  I get the impression that they do not understand the situation they are in.

Chuck_IAG
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Re: Not breaking out of the box
Chuck_IAG   8/21/2012 11:12:14 AM
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That's the problem, all right.  RIM is like a dinosaur watching a bunch of newly-emerging mammals scurrying around at his feet, way too quick to catch and eat.  So the dinosaur decides instead to ignore them.  Meanwhile, those little mammals are growing bigger and eating his lunch.  It really does seem as though they don't understand what's going on.  I would say the company's only value now is intellectual-property protection in the developing wireless patent wars.  I see an acquisition coming.  Maybe that's what they're banking on, too.  They certainly don't seem to be all that interested in making new and exciting smartphones.

Rob Spiegel
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Re: Not breaking out of the box
Rob Spiegel   8/21/2012 11:57:24 AM
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I think RIM probably has another chance to get it right. They finally resolved their co-CEO situation, which could put the company on a new path. Even though Apple and the Android phones have stepped a generation ahead of RIM, the company still has significant technology on hand and they haven't lost their enterprise base. The BlackBerry phone is pretty clunky, but this company may still have a surprise or two in its future.

williamlweaver
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Re: Not breaking out of the box
williamlweaver   8/21/2012 1:06:10 PM
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The latest business model is to have a tablet that is used to access your app store. We all know the drill:
 
iPad = iTunes
Kindle = Amazon
Nook = Barnes & Noble
Nexus = Google Play
Blackberry = App World
 
And we need to factor in Operating System:
 
iPad = iOS
Kindle Fire = Android 2.3
Nook Tablet =  Android 2.3
Nexus 7 = Android 4.1
Blackberry Playbook = QNX
 
Beyond the silicon and the build quality, users are purchasing the company behind the App Store and the OS. It's quite a complex mix.


Rob Spiegel
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Re: Not breaking out of the box
Rob Spiegel   8/21/2012 1:13:58 PM
Well put, William. The edge RIM still has is its hold on the enterprise market. Purchase managers seem to be quite loyal. Even while employees are asking for iPhones and Androids, the purchase managers are still buying BlackBerrys.

Charles Murray
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Dual-core
Charles Murray   8/21/2012 7:59:48 PM
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It's interesting that RIM went with a dual-core processor instead of a quad core, especially given the fact that they were trying (or should have been trying) for a dramatic new product offering. I wonder why. Cost?

Mydesign
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Mydesign   8/22/2012 1:07:01 AM
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Charles, am not getting why still play book prefers for Dual core, when MS and Google is offering their products with Quad core processor. Whether Dual core processor have any advantage when compare with Quad core processors

Mydesign
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Mydesign   8/22/2012 1:12:52 AM
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William, now most people prefer tablets with either latest Android or Apple OS. Moreover Google and MS is also coming to market with most updated features.  In such scenario, any scope for RIM or Nokia products.

mrdon
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Re: Not breaking out of the box
mrdon   8/22/2012 1:59:25 AM
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Beth, the first BlackBerry I used back in 2009 was a mini boat anchor. My personal Motorola cellphone was slim and lightweight compared to the clunky BlackBerry issued by the company. Although RIM has a lot of work ahead of them to compete in the Apple iOS, Android, and Windows 7 smartphone/tablet market, I was quite impressed with the Qualcomm based communication pcb and dual mini speakers shown in the teardown slides.

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