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Greg M. Jung
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Breakthroughs
Greg M. Jung   6/21/2012 8:11:03 AM
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Great results.  Taking a swimsuit and achieving a 5% reduction in drag is huge considering that some races are decided by only tenths or hundredths of a second.  Amazing breakthrough.

Nancy Golden
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Application
Nancy Golden   6/21/2012 11:20:37 AM
While I agree, this is an amazing breakthrough - call me old-fashioned. I think everyone should just wear the same thing to equalize swimwear in the competition. Is it about the advances in technology or is it about the human physical endeavor? I bet there are some great applications for this technology, just not so sure that swimming competitions should be so caught up in external advantages that not everyone has access to...just my opinion though.

Musashi Rings
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Swimsuit Design
Musashi Rings   6/21/2012 3:01:34 PM
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It's a shame that the record-breaking swimsuit was banned.  It would have been better to make it a standard so swimmers could still compete on an equal basis.

Just as improved running shoes have made it easier for everyone to run better, it would have made it easier for everyone to swim better.

It is not difficult to imagine people enjoying the water environment better and even swimming across oceans in faster and faster times.

Beth Stackpole
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Re: Application
Beth Stackpole   6/21/2012 3:09:26 PM
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I don't know, Nancy. Look at all the posts Design News runs on all the different tweaks and slight modifications to race cars, all at the same time when the industry is heavily policed to ensure there is a level playing "track." I think there are parallels to this example. The governing body that presides over swimming competitions sets the rules and then the swimsuit manufacturers and athletes all have to comply, but can still innovate to draw some sort of advantage.

Rob Spiegel
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Re: Swimsuit Design
Rob Spiegel   6/21/2012 3:40:09 PM
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I'm with you Musashi. Instead of banning it, make it available to everyone. 

I have to wonder, though, what size market is there for these specially developed materials? Seems a small market for such R&D.

Nancy Golden
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Re: Application
Nancy Golden   6/21/2012 4:20:59 PM
I see what you are saying Beth, but I think the analogy breaks down a little bit because it is the human body providing the energy to propel forward in swimming while in automotive racing it is the engine - so while it takes a skilled driver to win, it is the car that must be capable of achieving winning speeds. So to me, car racing is a combination of the car and the driver to succeed. A swimmer depends on their own physical ability. Slight nuance here but I think it exists...but then I always liked it when they added weights to saddles in horse racing so that every horse was carrying the same weight.

Musashi Rings
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Re: Swimsuit Design
Musashi Rings   6/21/2012 4:21:10 PM
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I'm sure there are people who would say that only full body swim suits with trunks should be used.

I suspect it is like the racing cars that used to be sponsored by the auto companies.  If you can show you support high speed vehicles, the customer may feel that you may be incorporating some of the features into your own cars...and what better than speed suits for Speedo?

Rob, it sounds like you are an innovator yourself.

Rob Spiegel
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Re: Swimsuit Design
Rob Spiegel   6/21/2012 4:42:03 PM
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That makes perfect sense, Musashi. If Speedo is seen designing bleeding edge swimwear for elite swimmers, they raise their status with the mass market.

Musashi Rings
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Re: Swimsuit Design
Musashi Rings   6/21/2012 4:47:53 PM
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And I would hope they would produce the full body, squeeze down suit for the rest of us because the skimpy brief-type Speedo suit is denfinitely not suited for my older body shape.

Rob Spiegel
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Re: Swimsuit Design
Rob Spiegel   6/21/2012 4:52:09 PM
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Nor my body shape, Musashi. Is this something that would appeal to recreational swimmers? Or even workout swimmers? I do a ton of recreational swimming with my kids, and my swimsuit view is the simpler the better.

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