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hello once again...i go back again for the last slides to complete...thanks once again for a wonderful presentation...

going back again for the next archived class session...

great sir rick...thanks for valuable informations throughout the whole week class lessons as well as to the digikey and design news for giving us to find a suitable ways for us to have a PDH Certificates in attending the continuing education for our career development and our job....

i will just take a rest for a moment then going back to the archived classes...good afternoon and happy weekend!

i am now on slide 2 of the presentation...here we go now...

just downloaded the presentation slides of day 5 class lesson...

today's last day of day 5 class lesson will be great...here i am again sir rick for your day 5 class presentation...thanks again.

Thank you Rick, it was a good observational class on sw test systems

Implementing is the key

Picking up another one late

Thanks Rick, Rich and Digikey. See all next time.

Iron

Better late than never, from the archive today.

Iron

Thanks for your comments and questions.  Keep them coming.  Send your requests for the Notes to Rich Nass Rich.Nass@UBM.com  I am logging out for today, but will be checking this chat Monday and after Monday.  Look in this chat for answers to your questions that I cannot answer, which I have sent to vendors and other experts in this field.

Blogger

Wild -- looking back through the chat stack, I found the comment I posted when I arrived (about fifteen-twenty minutes late?) DUPLICATED at about 40-45 minutes into the stack... with the later timestamp, too.

Platinum

I don't think I've mentioned it this week -- you might be interested to look at LeapMotion's new device for gestural recognition -- I'm suspecting (on darned little evidence) that they MAY have found a way to commercialize a spin-off of lenseless imaging, such that they're able to extract position data on-the-fly (under 30mSec latency, with a precision of 0.01mm). If you know anyone into virtual reality and heads-up display goggles, those have pretty much ALWAYS suffered from head-movement latency interference with "staying IN the virtual space". And (as I've pointed out to a few people) a device designed to be stationary with high-precision motion and gestural detection can just as easily be used as a spatial "mouse" to detect motion and orientation of goggles. And pretty much anything else. Expect to be seeing more of their stuff.

Platinum

Hi Rick,

Having been on both sides of the Purpose Build vs. Software Defined module debate, I appreciate your insight. I have passed on some suggestions to Rich that he may share with you.

Having been involved in SCPI defintion and HP-VEE (HP's defunct version of LabView) usage and defining purpose build instgruments for the cell phone manufacturers, I can appreciate some of the tradeoffs you were trying to make in your presentations.

Thanks again for the week.

So it's been awhile since I looked CLOSELY at Tektronix -- my bad.

Thanks for letting us borrow your insights over this last week.

Platinum

 

Anyone finds this information about drivers (MS VB 6.0 etc...) useful? Is the goal of today's lecture to teach us how to write "good" drivers? or is it how to select instruments based on the driver availability? or... my concern is that the information being presented is only correct for a particular ADE (software package) version and that is not announced...

Iron


This webinar was not intended to teach how to writer drivers, but what questions to ask and to think about drivers.

Blogger

For those of you who requested and received the notes pages, my typo on Rich's Email name is also on the last page of the notes.  However, if you received the notes, he must have received your Email.  His correct Email is:  Rich.Nass@UMB.com

 

Blogger

"Not geared to any specific solution" basically means it SHOULD be generic enough to cover MOST solutions. Of course, if you're attempting to do functional verification of something reeeally-current-technology, you MUST double-check the RANGE of adjustable specs for signal sources of ANY kind. Variable (measureable) I/O current, voltages, pulse trains, etc... One source of technical testgear with all KINDS of useful peripherals, tools, etc, is Techtronics...

Iron

 

I think you mean Tek or Tektronix.  This webinar was not intended to be a how-to guide, but an overview of the subject with areas to consider.

Blogger

The audio can not be downloaded. It must be streamed from the site.

Blogger

Uh-oh. Typo in the address Rick gave out for me. I am "Rich" not "Rick." So it's Rich.Nass@ubm.com

Blogger

Rich, got the notes. Thank you!

Iron

Thank you Rich, Rick, and all the participants. I will catch uyp with you in tywo week from Rio de Janeiro. I already started praying for a good Internet connection. :o) 

Iron

@milt, you're never too late. The presentations are all archived on the main page

Blogger

To all. I responded to all requests for the week's presentations. If you requested and didn't receive, either I didn't get your email, or it was too big for your email system.

Blogger

Am I too late? :)

Iron

@flarebrog: good positive thoughts about student's entitlement and usefulness of sessions like this.

Iron

Chat size limits.  Think Twitter and double the number of characters.

Blogger

@rich.nass: your audio problem was only present in the begining of today's session.

Iron

Hi Rick,

Items you may want to include in your webinar for the future. As part of the subject of software includes not just the ADE/IDE and drivers. It also includes some considerations that need to be considered when evaluating basic approaches to a software defined test (what hardware is being tested, what kind of signals/measurements are needed, what kind of timing is needed, what modularity is needed, what sequencing ordering requirements are needed, etc.)

Also it would be useful to discuss the trade offs between flexibility and critical timing requirements and how that plays into the high level "approach" to creating Software Driven Tests.

More Links:

 

Blogs

National Instruments, Design News, Software-Defined Instrumentation, designnews.com/author.asp?section_id=1386&doc_id=227852&dfpPParams=aid_227852&dfpLayout=blog

Blogger

More Links:

 

Articles

National Instruments: Software-Defined Instrumentation With Peer-to-Peer Computing, Evaluation Engineering, evaluationengineering.com/search/article.php?aid=3532

Blogger

@Rick: Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience. some interesting book on the subject you refer.

Iron

@Rick - i was not looking for a "clean radio voice" in these lectures, but rather for a knowledge share by a person with some experience in this area.

Iron

Links to more inforrmation is several separate posts:

 

Webinars

Fundamentals of Software-Defined Instrumentation, EE Times,

eetimes.com/electrical-engineers/education-training/courses/4214804/Fundamentals-of--Software-Defined--Instrumentation

  Literature

National Instruments:  ni.com/automatedtest/guides.htm

Microsoft: microsoft.com/visualstudio/en-us

Blogger

AEdB_Vt Send me an email and I will send you the PPT with Rick's notes, Rich.Nass@ubm.com

Blogger

"Not geared to any specific solution" basically means it SHOULD be generic enough to cover MOST solutions. Of course, if you're attempting to do functional verification of something reeeally-current-technology, you MUST double-check the RANGE of adjustable specs for signal sources of ANY kind. Variable (measureable) I/O current, voltages, pulse trains, etc... One source of technical testgear with all KINDS of useful peripherals, tools, etc, is Techtronics...

Platinum

Supposedly available for months -- if you haven't already, you should go back and run through any of the PAST weekly sessions you missed, particularly if the content/context is anything you might find useful (with hindsight, foresight, etc).

Is there any way to capture the audio content to my local system??

Platinum

Finally got back -- long story...

Platinum

 It would be a good thing to have a week of case studies. I would also want to see, this topic on important platforms such as Linux, QNX, Solaris.

Iron

Check with Techtronix -- I've seen some that can, up to a point. We're not talking terabytes, though...

Platinum

Maybe 255 characters?

 

Can Dynamic Signal Acquisition Boards act like memory storage O-scopes, with adjustable trigger levels to catch random events?

Iron

 

Trigger levels, yes.  Storage:  I don't this so.

Blogger

Weird -- I was totally unable to post those last three paragraphs as one post.

Is there a buffer-size limit??

Platinum

Granted, a little less "reading directly from the online tutorial" would be nice in the future -- kinda HATE to be able to "google" the last fifteen words spoken and FIND what is being talked about. Particularly if explicit credit isn't being given to those disparate sources...

Platinum

To be quite honest, I'm actually kind of enthused about knowing that much of what we heard (and saw in slides) has a LARGE body of explication waiting back there -- means we can snapshot references and go back and "pick the brains" of a huge body of multi-institutional knowledge, drilling down for specific info that we would NEVER have had time for in one of these presentations. A nice, neat, totally wrapped up and all-inclusive 5x35minutes wouldn't even come CLOSE to the ultimate usefulness of what we got this week.

Platinum

Students DO display a certain "entitlement", don't they?  Whereas we professionals have a certain grasp of "this fits over HERE, that fits over THERE" and we don't have to be spoonfed in quite the same way. Again, I've said it before, there is excellent value in having an experienced aggregator who can knowledgeably pick-and-choose through the HUGE amount of online tutorials available.

Platinum

Slides have NO details -- reviewing them later would tell me nothing.  It would be nice if they could be used to review months down the road when we come upon situations where we need to actually use this information.  The chances of needing EVERYTHING you teach TODAY is remote -- these classes are always for information to refer back to -- we just need to hear it once to know it exists, but need to be able to find it again later.

Iron

@luizcosta... "advised" is good... however, his presentation does not match that intention...

@EdB_Vt - fully agree, but this could have been presented in a more concise and clear way (not just reading from the whitepapers)

Iron

As I am sure you know, the best presentations are written by the presenter, who then does not read them.  This is great for a smooth radio voice, but can include inaccuracies and discrepancies.

Blogger

Thanks Rich and Rick.  This is a bigger topic than I realized, so the info was great to point me in the right direction.

Iron

Thanks for taking the time to put these webinars on. I found it to be an excellent way to get a great general overview of what is going on in the world of test these days. My one improvement thought would be to consider an advanced seminar series. My thought on that would be 5 case studies, considering the webinar series spans 5 days. The case studies, amongst other things, would go into more details on applying some of the key items we have learnt this week. Does anyone else think something like this would be useful to them?

Iron

@flaredone - flashgot plugin for firefox saves a local copy of recorder lecture...

Iron

Rich - my main complaint is that there were a lot of key details that were not on the slides, mostly sub-points below the bullets on the slides. Too much to write down, and still follow what is being said next (more so if I am trying to make notes on a PDF of the slides).

Iron

This is why I am making the notes papes available:  Email Rich Nass  Rich.Nass@UBM.com


Blogger

Can Dynamic Signal Acquisition Boards act like memory storage O-scopes, with adjustable trigger levels to catch random events?

@flaredone - you can install the newer versions of Real Player and it comes with a browser add-on that will capture the audio

Iron

@luizcosta - agree with you 100%. I was getting really frustrated at times... on the positive side - I did have a chance to learn something (negative experience is also experience). Looking forward for the next lecture set (coming up in a couple of weeks)

Iron

Received all my Starbucks eGift cards. Thank you DigiKey.

Iron

Digital Acquisition boards: do these take harmonic measurements?

Iron

I don't believe that digital acquisition boards take harmonic measurements.

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Platinum

thanks for the info. you covered some important and usefull points.

EdB-Vt: I think when I go through some of the vendor stuff, everything will be much clearer. Then I'll be able to ask salesmen intelligent questions...

 

 

I am with those who felt uneasy about the reading style of lecture. i keep thinking what my students would do in my term evaluation or even during the class.

on the bright side, i conforted my emotional reaction with: at least it is a time to listen to someone reading to me on a subject of interest. a sort of audible recording of the class. :o)

Iron

does anyone know when the next week of sessions will be?

Iron

Supposedly available for months -- if you haven't already, you should go back and run through any of the PAST weekly sessions you missed, particularly if the content/context is anything you might find useful (with hindsight, foresight, etc).

Is there any way to capture the audio content to my local system??

Platinum

Anyone finds this information about drivers (MS VB 6.0 etc...) useful? Is the goal of today's lecture to teach us how to write "good" drivers? or is it how to select instruments based on the driver availability? or... my concern is that the information being presented is only correct for a particular ADE (software package) version and that is not announced...

Iron

This webinar is not about how write drivers, just how to determine their attributes and tradeoffs.  You need to think about them.

Blogger

Thanks Rick, Rich and digikey for the excellent lecture, and the java.

It is always good to have a well stocked tool box.

Iron

Rich - my main complaint is that there were a lot of key details that were not on the slides, mostly sub-points below the bullets on the slides. Too much to write down, and still follow what is being said next (more so if I am trying to make notes on a PDF of the slides).

Iron

ok...another session down...see everyone the next go around

Iron

Thanks, Rick. Looks like much more reading is in store to take up my spare time...

A question about the driver. Rick, can you provide a simple example about developing driver? thanks.

Iron

Hi Rich, How long these archive will be available online?

Iron

"Not geared to any specific solution" basically means it SHOULD be generic enough to cover MOST solutions. Of course, if you're attempting to do functional verification of something reeeally-current-technology, you MUST double-check the RANGE of adjustable specs for signal sources of ANY kind. Variable (measureable) I/O current, voltages, pulse trains, etc... One source of technical testgear with all KINDS of useful peripherals, tools, etc, is Techtronics...

Platinum

Thank you. Definitely a lot of info to digest...

Iron

Was there anything else you would have liked Rick to cover over the course of the week? Not too late to get it done.

Blogger

Thank you Rick!

 

Iron

Thanks very much, Rick, for your sessions this week -- they were excellent!

Iron

Thanks Rich and Digikey for these great sessions.

 

Iron

Thanks Rick.. Very useful Info

Iron

Thank you Rick, Rich, Digi-Key and all!

thank you Rick,

Iron

Thank you Rick..

 

Iron

Thank you Rick for the series

Iron

thanks for today's presentation

Iron

@luizcosta... "advised" is good... however, his presentation does not match that intention...

@EdB_Vt - fully agree, but this could have been presented in a more concise and clear way (not just reading from the whitepapers)

Iron

@caa028 The point I got is that considering the drivers available is part of hardware selection. Don't buy H/W if it doesn't have drivers for your environment of choice.

Iron

 RICK TODAY ADVISED THAT IT WILL NOT BE GEARED TO ANY SPECIFIC SOLUTION.

Iron

Another attribute of bad drivers is inefficiency.  For example, the drivers that National Instuments provides are very simplistic and not optimized in any way.  They're great when you are getting started but are unsuitable for production systems.

Iron

Finally got back -- long story...

Platinum

What is a simple test for a good drive? Before settings

Anyone finds this information about drivers (MS VB 6.0 etc...) useful? Is the goal of today's lecture to teach us how to write "good" drivers? or is it how to select instruments based on the driver availability? or... my concern is that the information being presented is only correct for a particular ADE (software package) version and that is not announced...

Iron

2 & 2 several weeks ago and 8 last week

Iron

Audio is not clear..like an echo sounded..

 

Iron

@willP Got your email. I'm looking into it.

Blogger

@slk, I received a total of 12

Iron

the past two days, whenever I lost audio...I had to shut down IE and connect to the website again

Iron

Audio is good for me... Can hear Rick loud and clear... Rich was not as clear today

Iron

@Alaskaman all good?

Blogger

OK, reset my browser

Audio is still good--best it has been all week.

Iron

@chipmonger - how many ?

Iron

@alaskaman66 - I still have audio... no problems

Iron

Lost audio? just me?

 

Received all my Starbucks eGift cards. Thank you DigiKey.

Iron

Digital Acquisition boards: do these take harmonic measurements?

Hi from Chaska, MN

Iron

@zak - yes, audio is loud and clear

Iron

as you already probably know, LinkedIn pswd have been hacked.    too late to change it, but if you use it somewhere else, is not to late to change it there.

Iron

do we have audio?

 

Iron

hello from sunny miami

@luizcosta Thanks for the note. Has it been okay before today?

Blogger

@Rich - audio works fine (company does not block it)

Iron

Hello from upstate NY.

Iron

Thanks for joining. If you want the slides with the notes, send me an email at Rich.Nass@ubm.com

Blogger

So what comes after IRON?

Iron

RICH I just wanted to tell you that your audio is somewhat flaky also.

Iron

Hi Rich, Rick and all.

Iron

Good afternoon Rich & Rick.

Iron

Does anyone know why we all have 'IRON' after our names?

 

Iron

@wildbb Oahu great if not over crowded. Barber's Point is no more as a military base. Will be overrun with housesin the next few years.

Iron

I'm here.  T he phone issues have been resolved.  Please use this chat if you want more detail on any of the subjects today.

Blogger

Anybody know how to get at the certificates for these courses?

I've sent Alex a couple notes, but he hasn't answered...

 

Iron

Howdy all, another terrific day in STL!

Iron

Hey, Chipmonger -- how's Oahu these days?  I was raised at Barber's Point when Hawai'i was a territory.

Iron

Rick assures me that his phone issues have been resolved. Otherwise, Starbucks is on him!

Blogger

five minute warning

Blogger

hello everyone...TGIF hey

Iron

Good afternoon folks.

Iron

@chipmonger, you must really like these classes

Blogger

@technologist, glad we could keep you at home

Blogger

@widbb, I'm in north jersey, just outside of NYC

Blogger

Hello from rainy Valdez everyone.

good afternoon everyone

Iron

@rich Or if you company blocks the live audio streaming on the firewall, then use that as an excuse to work from home that day :) And it's a double win for it being a Friday

Hi all.  Besides why would you want to do this chat/stream from a Starbucks in NJ Rich.

Howdy folks!!   Happy Friday!   :)

Hi Rick, Rich, And Everyone From Here In California

Iron

Where in Jersey, Rich?

Iron

First person to send me a message via this chat gets free cup of coffee at my local Starbucks (yes, you must be present to receive your prize). Just kidding. Hello from NJ!

Blogger

And of course, if you haven't joined our LinkedIn group, please do so, at http://linkd.in/yoNGeY

Blogger

Does your company block live audio? Let me know.

Blogger

The streaming audio player will appear on this web page when the show starts at 2pm eastern today. Note however that some companies block live audio streams. If when the show starts you don't hear any audio, try refreshing your browser.

Blogger

Hi folks. I hope yopu're geared up for the final installment of this week's lecture series. As before, download today's slides by clicking on the link above.

Blogger


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