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ricardo
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Re: What do you expect?
ricardo   6/7/2012 7:43:37 PM
I can't think of any Chinese technology that hasn't been pilfered from the west or Russia.  Can anyone???

Err..rh!  The compass, the rudder, printing and of course gunpowder, the invention that the West refined to the present state of art for its most innovative and popular pursuit, killing people.

Sure, the Chinese aren't a threat to American industry & innovation.  Neither were Shoichiro Honda and Akio Morita.

 

Charles Murray
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Re: Electric Bicycles?
Charles Murray   6/7/2012 7:09:13 PM
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Great NYT link, Beth. Thanks.

Charles Murray
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Re: Incentive may not be strong enough
Charles Murray   6/7/2012 6:49:40 PM
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I agree, Sport. I'm not a conspiracy buff, but the idea of collusion wouldn't shock me. At the moment, the lack of a high-energy battery makes collusion less necessary.  

Watashi
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Re: What do you expect?
Watashi   6/7/2012 4:43:55 PM
Oh, forgot to note - The German Sturmgewehr 44 was the base design the Ak47 was stolen from.  Mikhail did improve its reliability, but definitely started with a fine German design.

Watashi
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Re: What do you expect?
Watashi   6/7/2012 4:37:21 PM
The American J. Walter Christie was responsible for the Soviet Union's T-34 which was the one that proved superior to Germany's panzers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Walter_Christie

Russian post war advances and engineering culture came at the hands of captured German scientists.  The cold war provided an external 'threat' that compelled the tyrannical USSR to permit innovation in military arms.  That and the extensive spy network of the KGB that stole US, British, and other allied designs.

The Chinese were good customers of the Russians until they decided that they could go into business for themselves.  They started building knock-off Russian jets much to the behest of their 'friends'.  I guess there is a case to be made for Karma.

I never said American engineers are superior.  But the fact is, for various reasons, since WWII we have excelled to the head of the class. There is no guarantee that we will remain the leaders, particularly with this administration in office.  But free market systems and free people will always lead the repressed.  Marxist and tyrannical nations will always be inferior - as proven by the 20th century.

tomw
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Re: Comparing apples and oranges
tomw   6/7/2012 3:13:09 PM
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Few new EVs are using lead acid batteries, but they can be fitted with reformers to capture vented hydrogen and oxygen.  The mass flow in a lead acid cell is almost nil compared to an ICE.  Just compare the exhaust pipe on a typical car to the vents on a battery. 

Both the ICE and battery use the air for cooling.  But the battery will typically produce much less heat for the same output.

ScotCan
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Re: What do you expect?
ScotCan   6/7/2012 3:01:23 PM
The old Soviet Union cranked out better tanks than the Nazis in World War 2, their Kalishnikovs were more reliable than either the Allies or the Nazis equipment. Their aerodynamists are among the best in the world and their computer scientists and engineers are well respected generally. Again if the commenter was not so Americentric statements like the above would not be made...the communist regime took a feudal autocracy from wooden plows and made it into a modern industrial nation and fought a successful war against the Nazis with little help from its Western allies....no amount of American propaganda is going to deny these historical facts

Watashi
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Re: Chinese (American) Technology
Watashi   6/7/2012 2:50:45 PM
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Mea Culpa - I should have said "Western" as I did in a later post.  I do appreciate Brit technology prowess (and not just because I work for a brit owned company).

I also recall some recent Aussie complaints about Chinese IP theft.

ScotCan
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Re: Chinese (American) Technology
ScotCan   6/7/2012 2:44:53 PM
Oh come on now! The Chinese do not need to reverse engineer anything any more than Americans. The idea that success can only stem from the US is nonsense...the British helicopter BERP rotors is proof of that! Curiously enough there is very little reporting in this magazine on what the Brits are doing(or for that matter the Europeans) where EV's are concerned. In this age of globalization one would expect less Americentric smugness...the real problem with EV's is that scaling up to autos was too big a jump....E-Scooters work just fine because at that scale and weight, the batteries can manage using simple controllers.

Watashi
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Re: Comparing apples and oranges
Watashi   6/7/2012 2:41:37 PM
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What kind of battery are you writing about? The most common lead acid batteries vent to the atmosphere throughout their lifetime.

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