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Island_Al
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Re: All or none
Island_Al   5/18/2012 10:38:27 AM
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kenish,

I almost spilled my coffee laughing so hard. Sadly this 'plan' does sound like a solution a real bureaucrat really would come up with.  Hilarious, and I'm often told that engineers have no sense of humor.  Love it! Thanks for making my day.



Nancy Golden
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Re: Fear of sensory overload
Nancy Golden   5/15/2012 8:25:52 PM
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And Beth - you are used to technology! I agree - can you imagine older folks and rural drivers trying to interpret all of that?! It seems to me that we are just trading for different types of distractions. And the cost of this technology will drive the cost of vehicles up. What about all the folks like me that consistently buy older used cars as my main vehicle? I am in a paid for 1997 Lumina at the moment - I don't see myself catching up any time soon with two teenagers to feed! I think the answer is to quit allowing poor driving habits to continue and as you said, instill good old fashioned safe driving. My husband and I made a family pact that we will not use our cell phones while we are driving. If something is urgent, we'll pull over. We have a 14 and a 16 year old who are watching and learning from our choices.

Jack Rupert, PE
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Re: Fear of sensory overload
Jack Rupert, PE   5/13/2012 12:49:08 PM
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The second part of the problem is what happens when a sensor or the communication system fails?  Whose fault is it going to be.  I can just see a boat load of personal injury lawyers going after everybody with deep pockets in the supply stream because the car didn't tell the driver that the guy in front of him had his brake lights on.

Charles Murray
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Re: Missing the point --- Coming back full Circle!
Charles Murray   5/10/2012 6:55:53 PM
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Unfortunately, automakers and mobile phone manufacturers are taking a hard look at it, JimT. Read about it here:

http://www.designnews.com/author.asp?section_id=1395&doc_id=235042

JimT@Future-Product-Innovations
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Missing the point --- Coming back full Circle!
JimT@Future-Product-Innovations   5/10/2012 1:04:03 PM
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I can confidently say that much of the Push behind all of the ideas shown here are intended to "help" the distracted driver to be safer.  ....And then slide #5 of 13 states that Automakers are contemplating putting V2V apps on Smart Phones. 

Hello-?!!  McFly-?!!  Are you in there-?!!

JimT@Future-Product-Innovations
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Forget the Heavy Traffic - I want to talk to the LIGHTS.
JimT@Future-Product-Innovations   5/10/2012 12:41:46 PM
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Many Rational comments about benefits of good drivers, outweighing extra-sensory-perception of the automobile; however, in one instance, I'm very excited for the day when my car will talk to the Stop Lights.  This will be a huge turn in the RIGHT direction from where I'm currently standing.

I live in South Florida where many municipalities have joined together and created a monster – The "Smart" traffic light.  It is blatantly misnamed, and is the most frustrating robot ever created --- liken to the 1980's when computers were first becoming commonplace, and you remember the common colloquialism, "computers don't make mistakes" --- (remember that battle-cry-?)

These Miami-Dade-Broward-West-Palm Beach Traffic lights are proudly displayed by the governing bodies and over-zealously snap pictures of your license-plate, happily running up city revenues.  Trouble is, they burn steady-red for minutes on end, presumably thinking they have the superior intelligence on traffic patterns – which they do not.  Daily I approach the same Green-Arrow, only to be struck with a 4-minute Red, because my vehicle was only "approaching" the sensors at 30mph, and not stopped on top of it. 

Yes, I am excited to see the day when I my car can "talk" to these lights. Oh, I'll have a thing or two to say, for sure.

ChasChas
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Re: Let me be the Conspiracy theorist...
ChasChas   5/9/2012 9:27:19 PM
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Your exactly right, ervin. History has shown people so easily trading their freedoms for security, safety, and health care.

In this country, we expected the individual to provide their own security, safety and health care in exchange for the freedom to be able to do just that. (Plus put up with some inequites in the system.)

Now we have one political party catering to human strengths and one political party catering to human weaknesses - what a mess! 

kenish
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Re: All or none
kenish   5/9/2012 8:27:32 PM
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@ChasChas- Did you hear that England is going to switch to driving on the right-hand side of the road?  They're using a conservative approach.  The first phase will be trucks....

 

Charles Murray
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Re: Smarter Cars
Charles Murray   5/9/2012 8:00:57 PM
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Al, I agree that distracting user interfaces could be a problem if this isn't done correctly. I can't really speak to some of the solutions, but I know that automotive suppliers are working on this issue.

Charles Murray
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Re: All or none
Charles Murray   5/9/2012 7:58:35 PM
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ChasChas, you are correct on both counts. This technology will really start to show its effects when all vehicles have it. And, yes, there could be a problem with cars "chickening out" when the weather is bad. I could also see traffic jams occurring because the vehicles will be too conservative.

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