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Ann R. Thryft
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Re: Recycled plastic
Ann R. Thryft   4/23/2012 2:30:00 PM
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notarboca, thanks for the explanation. We are discussing materials, here, not processes. I agree that the more it is used the greater the benefit. So far, all of these new materials are discovered and provided by commercial entities, so I'm not sure how they could be provided or distributed without without commercialization. 

 


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Re: Recycled plastic
notarboca   4/23/2012 2:24:48 PM
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What I meant was if more manufacturers were using this, or a similar process, it would be of great benefit.  Commercialization is very good, too; you discover the process, you can license it and profit from it.

Ann R. Thryft
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Re: Recycled plastic
Ann R. Thryft   4/23/2012 1:22:57 PM
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notarboca, can you tell us what you mean? This material and Axion's material use in the Scottish bridge are both proprietary processes developed by industry and commercialized. What alternative method were you thinking of?


Ann R. Thryft
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Re: Recycled plastic
Ann R. Thryft   4/23/2012 1:19:57 PM
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Jack, this is not the same material I reported on for the bridge built in Scotland:

http://www.designnews.com/author.asp?section_id=1392&doc_id=237384

That one uses Axion's recycled-bottle-derived material.


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Re: Recycled plastic
notarboca   4/23/2012 12:02:01 PM
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Ann, I wish this was not a proprietary process; much good could come from everyone upcycling PBTs, with such an available resource

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Re: Recycled plastic
Jack Rupert, PE   4/22/2012 2:50:40 PM
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Great article.  Is this the same genearl process / material that was discussed in a previous piece relating to bridge construction?  It seems that there are more and more uses for this.  Maybe, some day soon there will be profit in recycling and municipalities can subsidized their budgets out of recycling rather than having to pay for mandated programs.

Ann R. Thryft
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Re: RECYCLE
Ann R. Thryft   4/20/2012 12:11:31 PM
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bobjengr, glad you enjoyed the article. The SABIC representatives I met with mentioned that their Innovative Plastics division originated in the former GE group. I was really impressed with what SABIC has accomplished. That said, SABIC is a Saudi Arabian company, not an American one, without all of the constraints (even for beneficient reasons) American ones have and with many social and political conditions US engineers might not want to live with.


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Re: Recycled plastic
Ann R. Thryft   4/20/2012 12:09:06 PM
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There was no mention of this specific material used for Volvo's side air deflection brackets also being used for under-hood applications (I would have reported it, since I'm interested in that application, too). SABIC did not say if it is developing a version of this material, or other materials, for that use. In what I've seen in the market to date, handling hot and cold air and handling under-hood temps are apps with two different sets of specs.


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Mydesign   4/20/2012 2:10:36 AM
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Ann, that's for the clarification. So by end again it can be recycled for different component manufacturing.

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Re: Recycled plastic
Charles Murray   4/19/2012 8:07:56 PM
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Ann, the reason I asked the question is that I'm curious about underhood applications for automotive. Can it withstand underhood heat?

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