FrankWye : Yes the proof is there. For example your timeline link should be obvious propaganda to anyone who looks at it. It is most telling that you would still try to call it "fact", even though it contains only false information, such as quotes from Iranian and Iraqi leaders, even though those countries took no part in the 1967 war at all. It is clear to anyone familiar with the actual history of that time and place, that this fake timeline was trying way too hard to make Israel appear to be the victim, even though it was Israel that had all the lastest US weapons, and was the one that attacked. Adn the goal was obvious. Jerusalem. Since the UN would not give it to them legally, they stole it by force. And no fake claims of pre-emptive strike can explain why Israel would have to launch a ground assault into the West Bank of Palestine, into Jerusalem. That did not make Israel safer, but much harder to defend the larger and more convoluted corridor, filled will Arab villages. It is not at all like the Golan Heights where one could accurately claim there was a tactical advantage of taking the high ground.
As for your hybrid argument, it basically is wishful thinking, based on the ignorant assumption that when gasoline gets expensive enough, that somehow enterprise will rise to the task. And it should be clear the reason that is ignorant is because enterprise can't make oil. Oil can only come from 100 million years of concentrated sunlight. We don't have the resources to grow enough crops to satisfy even 10% of our current use, and our use is doubling every 10 years at the current rate. Any rational person would see that is soon to be unsustainable. It is not that hybrids are a perfect solution, but clearly anyone with only an internal combustion engine will be stuck waiting in long lines, paying huge sums of money in the near future. It has already happened sever times, but not nearly as severe as it is going to be. And even though pure EV is not necessarily practical now, hybrids have the flexibility of both worlds, and can take advantage of gasoline when available, or recharge stations when they are available. Any rational person can easily see there really is no choice in the near future.
RIGBY - One thing that I like about this kind of commenting setup is that anyone can go back and read what has been said by both you and I and see that you are an illogical kook.
FrankWye : That is ridiculous to claim you have used any "facts" at all. Sure the Israelis "claim" to have attacked preemptively because of the Egyptian and Syrian buildups, but the actual truth is that the Egyptians and Syrians were building in preparation for the obvious build up of Israeli forces. You have provided not a single name, date or link.
And buffers most certainly are illegal when they are not on your land or even in your country. One country can not simply decide to demolish miles of building on the land of another country, because they wish to have a "buffer zone". That is totally criminal.
Nor is it rational to claim oil supply will go up, regardless of price. Price has nothing to do with it. The reality is that governments will have to ensure there are food supplies in order to prevent riots, and will have to confiscate oil if necessary. And the remaining oil is going to simply be harder and harder to find and extract. Oil is not owned by any private company, but by the country that owns the land it is found under. Your claims are as unreal as someone sure of the whale oil industry in 1890. Technological advances will be necessary to even maintain a fraction of the oil we use now.
And spending $4 billion over 14 year is nothing. We give Israel over $5 billion a year in foreign aid and loans guarantees. You must have a typo, since the correct figure is more like $4 trillion from 1961 to 2008. But we all know that far more of this government R&D money went into research to help oil companies, like for deep water drilling, than it did for alternative renewable sources. The government never built any fusion reactors, solar energy farms, etc. In fact, the majority of the money seems to have been spent on coal, oil, and gas research, just to extend commercial profits, regardless of the long term problems.
Rigby - I think I am the one that keeps showing the facts. I use dates, names, websites, etc. to get historical information.
For example: Israel's critics maintain that the 1967 War was one of Israeli aggression rather than a war of Israeli self-defence. Yet, earlier on May 15, Israel's Independence Day, Egyptian troops had begun moving into the Sinai, massing near the Israeli border. By May 18, Syrian troops, too, were preparing for battle along the Golan Heights, 3000 feet above the Galilee, from which they had shelled Israel's farms and villages for years.
Buffers are not illegal if they are in self-defense. It's better, arguably, than just wiping them out.
Oil prices are world prices. The more affluent will buy more. As the price/demand goes up the supply will lag but go up also because more exploration happens and technology allows us to access more.
ABSTRACT: This paper documents nearly a half century of U.S. federal government support for energy research and development (R&D). Data on energy R&D expenditures disaggregated by major program area are presented here for the first time for the period 1961-2008. This paper also documents U.S. federal government spending on key large scale energy R&D programs that were initiated in response to the oil crisis of the 1970s.
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FrankWye : The timeline is totally out of rational proportions. Arabs being murdered, dispossessed, and illegally exiled by the millions is not mentioned at all. While a few toy rockets you can carry in one hand, that to date have harmed fewer than 20 Israelis, get headlines. It is illegal to create buffers beyond your national borders.
The reason the Palestinian/Israeli issue is important is becaues in the past it caused Saudi Arabia to sell us more oil, in order to buy weapons from us. It also distracted the Arabs from concern about how we manipulated their governments, with anger directed at Israel. But since the blowback, such as the 9/11 attack, this is no longer such a good idea. With the Arab Spring, we won't be able to buy Arab cooperation much longer. Arab democracies are going to demand the highest possible price for oil, and we won't be able to afford it.
I have no idea what you are talking about, because rising oil prices as supply lowers is not a question of "handling" anything. Nor did we spend any money on technology in the late 1970s, although we should have. You seem to keep forgetting that oil is necessary for food production and distribution, and that should have priority over transportation. We should have transitioned away from internal combustion, with hybrids, in the 1970s, once we understood the starvation the whole world faces.
Yes, that is the map but every time Isreal gets bombed by missiles or terrorist suicide bombers they feel they must provide buffers and that means creating those buffers outside of Isreal.
Why is the Israel / Arab issue here at all? -Because the world depends on oil and the scaremongers, who apparently have crystal balls, think that we can't handle it so they want to force the rest of us to do it their way, ie. electric and hybrid vehicles and spend, spend, spend on technology, like they did in late 70's and got nothing.
I think that website about the six day war explains very well what happened.
First of all, we must remember that internal combustion cars are not improving.
In the 1950s and 1960s, cars from the whole rest of the world were commonly getting 30 to 40 mpg. These include the VW Beetle, Renault 8, MG 1100, Austin America, Fiat 600, and even US cars like the Nash Metropolitan. Even the Corvair could get 30 mpg, and that had way more power than it needed.
Second is that gasoline will rapidly be getting more and more expensive.
The discoveries are less freequent, further away, more difficult to get to, there are fewer and fewer places left to look, and there are bound to be more military conflicts over the undetermined ownership of the undersea locations left. Regardless of political pressure, eventually even agent of the US like Saudi Arabia, will no longer be able to contain price spike pressures. While Israel was useful as a distraction at first, eventually even higher oil prices will likely result.
Third is there is no good alternative solution yet.
It costs more to make artifical fuel for internal combustion engines than it does to simply recharge batteries. Bio fuels compete against food, and alcohol or hydrogen use more energy than would be used to just recharge batteries.
So, while hybrids are inefficient in tha they carry the weight of 2 propulsion systems, there is no other choice.
Batteries are not up to pure electric vehicles yet because we need to do things like establish exchange standards and locations. And pure internal combustion simply will not have enough consistent supply. It is hybrids or nothing during the transition.
IRON : It is impossible to justify Isreli aggression such as the 67 war. For example, the linked timeline contained quotes by Iraqi and Iranian leaders, when up to that time and for decades to come, Iraq and Iran had absolely no involvement at all in the conflict. Just look at a map of the 1948 UN patition to see the real aggressor.
You can quickly see why Egypt and Jordan were upset. Most of the border between Egypt and Israel was supposed to be separated by Arab Palestine territory. And Istrael was supposed to be well away from Jerusalem and the West Bank access to Jordan. It was Israel that had made the area dangerous, due to its illegal occupation of Palestinian territories well beyond what the UN gave as its partition.
Then compare maps of populations and village names, and you will see the systematic ethnic cleansing the Israelis carried out, and still are carrying out.
It is impossible to justify the 1967 war the Israelis admit starting.
FrankWye: It is not hard to look up the terrorism that drove most of the Arabs out of Israel. But you can not ask for a single date, because it started as early as 1920 and still continues today. Around 1948, dozens of whole Arabs villages disappear from the map, but public outcry was so great that since then it has been much more subtle. But it is still not hard to research. There are maps showing land ownership, populations, etc., from British census information during the Mandate, and we can see that the Arabs were always over 70% of the population and owned over 95% of the properties. With each war and day by day since 1948, we see a constant eviction or murder of Arabs, with subsequent new illegal Jewish settlements condemned by the UN.
As far as borders and representatives, there can be no doubt Jerusalem is outside the legal boundaries of Israel, and the occupation of Jerusalem by Israel is illegal.
Yes, I agree with you, however, that it was a trajedy that the people that lived there were displaced as often happens to a conquered people-throughout history. But then it depends on the situation. For example:
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