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warren@fourward.com
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warren@fourward.com   5/18/2012 8:37:20 PM
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Unfortunately, the government has gotten involved instead of letting the market determine what the public wants.  The $7,500 tax credit skews the market, and we might never find out what will really work.  It is time to let nature take its course.

EV batteries are expensive, dangerous, poisonous on a large scale, and not very efficient.  Why would you go this route, unless someone was paying you to go in that direction.  What does the government know about consumer affairs, other than taxing and spending?  What about fuel cells?  How about more efficient hybrids where the market determines how far the battery should take you before the gasoline kicks in?  Is there something else we aren't considering because Government Motors has taken us down a rabbit hole? How about 75 miles per gallon gasoline-fueled cars?

We may never know...

Rob Spiegel
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Re: No Choice
Rob Spiegel   4/25/2012 10:15:31 AM
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Hmmm. It will be interesting to see what kind of storage is available these days. With alternative energy, grid storage has certainly become an major issue.

Charles Murray
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Re: No Choice
Charles Murray   4/24/2012 8:21:51 PM
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There's an article about grid storage on our site tomorrow morning, Rob. Unfortunately, the people who did the study didn't include pumped hydro because they didn't see it as an emerging technology.

Rob Spiegel
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Re: No Choice
Rob Spiegel   4/24/2012 1:04:06 PM
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The more I read about batteries, the better the lake on the hill sounds. Until alternative energy sources such as wind and solar can produce energy to meet real-time demand, the lake on the hill may be our best bet. There's nothing wrong with a bunch of lakes dotting our landscape. 

Charles Murray
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Re: No Choice
Charles Murray   4/23/2012 8:46:17 PM
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For pure energy storage capacity, it would still take an awful lot of batteries to beat the lake on the hill, Rob.

Rob Spiegel
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Re: No Choice
Rob Spiegel   4/18/2012 12:11:05 PM
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That should be interesting, Chuck. Hope the new storage you're covering is an improvement on the lake on a hill. Though I have to admit, the lake on a hill is a heck of a way to store energy.

Charles Murray
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Re: No Choice
Charles Murray   4/17/2012 7:17:31 PM
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Speaking of solar, Rob, we will have a story about energy storage for solar and wind in a couple of days.

Rigby5
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Re: No Choice
Rigby5   4/16/2012 9:56:06 PM
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Except that you are the one claiming all the geologists are wrong, just like the people who claimed the round Earth scientists were wrong.  And what is criminal about this is that instead of trying to deal with the real problem of finite oil resources, people like you want to delude others into not preparing for this approaching severe threat.  It was the religious fanatics who thought the Earth was flat, the earth is young, and there are infinite and renewable oil resources. 

We either have to get really busy with batteries or hydrogen, because nothing else will likely work in about 20 to 60 years.

ttemple
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Re: No Choice
ttemple   4/16/2012 6:44:15 AM
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Rigby5,

That is a wonderful suggestion - make it a crime to not believe what you believe.  Come to think of it, they used to do that...  The earth was flat, and we bled the sick.  Perhaps you would suggest burning me at the stake.

Rigby5
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Re: No Choice
Rigby5   4/13/2012 6:59:20 PM
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ttemple :

I have read a number of textbooks referencing that it takes over 100 million years for oil to natually ferment.  If you feel the scientific community is in error on this accepted fact, then I suggest you publish your miraculous findings.  Unitl then or you show anyone else published who agrees with you, your view has no merit.  It would be criminal for someone to try to delude the public into believing oil did not naturally take over 100 million years.

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