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Thanks you Max & Alex, Great topic and chat

Iron

Hello to archive learning

The was the best one you won't believe how many new engineers (or management) have no idea what the cycle time is or what real time really means.

Iron

Good presentations and a lot of information (and anecdotes) shared in these two courses.  I hope any constructive criticism is for the betterment of future classes, for the enhancement and clarification, self documentation and completeness so that some good classes can be made better and archivable.

Thanks for an interesting and informative week of classes.

Iron

I imagine the Brown's ferry operators chose to begin a manual shutdown prior to conditions progressing to the point at which the Reactor Shutdown System actuated a SCRAM of the reactor which is a more severe transient on the reactor.  Had conditions been such at the loss of the pumps that an anticipated event without scram occurred, that would have been a very bad situation and the world woud have been made aware of it.

Iron

Max thank you for an informative sequence

Iron

delayed Hello due to travel

Iron

good presentations all week long.

Iron

final day, its been fun.

Iron

Thank you for this week, Max!

Iron

The video is really funny.

 

Iron

I enjoyed the last few weeks

OK Thanks everyone -- I hope you have a WONDERFUL weekend -- take care -- have fun -- Max

PS If you search on YouTube you can find a lot more of that Australian team doing these funny interviews

Blogger

Thanks Max and Alex.

Iron

Oh that's good...haa haa

Iron

The whale with clark... LOL

Iron

My first thought for the void was containmen,t should the furnace fail and all the molton glass leaked out in a big spill,  But then when that much glass hit that water in the bottom there would no doubt be one big explosion when the water "flashed" to steam.  Anyway thanks for a very good lecture over the past two/three weeks.

Iron

QGreekeng "LOL, love the video.. lol"

Which one? :-)

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@cmeasows6959 -- sorry to hear you aren;t feeling well - -hope you get to feeling better soon

 

Blogger

OK, Max and everyone, thank you for your insight on everything it was discussed. Hope to see Max again here and everyone else.

 

Have a great weekend.

Iron

LOL, love the video.. lol

 

Iron

I see a lot of growing interest in the use of OS in embedded systems. Let me recommend that you folks take a look at the Purdue prof. Dug Comer's project XINU. A great solution for OS base embedded solutions. It's being used unnanounced by many equipment manufactures. An excellend way to get a barebones kernel and develop extentions your self. XINU has now a virtual appliance so we cna learn to build OSs on a Virtual Box or implement it on a LynkSys router.

Iron

@Ran "Can you compare your FPGA explanation to that of SOC?"

Thonk of them as th esame in this context -- both could be used to implement hardware accelerators -- both can have processor cores and on-chip memory (the ASIC/SoC can have only a hard processotr core, the FPGA can have hard or soft) -- the extermal microcontroller sometimes hands control or data processing functions over to the ASIC/SoC or FPGA...

Blogger

Thank you for the lectures and the problems revealed.

Iron

not feeling too good today, but I did enjoy the presentation.

@Max, I have to go and earn my keep now. I'll look at the videos later. Thanks for your time. See all later.

Iron

@caa028: Thanks again!

Iron

I thought the first one you had trouble posting was hilarious. watching #2 now.

Iron

Has anyone watched the videos -- if so what did you think?

Blogger

Another video -- This one starts with a real news report, then leads into two Australian comedians doing a spoof interview (lots of good lines, but the one I like is "I'm not a botanist")
www.youtube.com/watch?v=W77IqQW9xzU

Blogger

@"Max, have you heard of anyone putting an actual OS on a FPGA."

Yes -- absolutally -- for example you can run the Micrium RTOS uC/OS-II or OS-III on the 32-bit soft processors like Nios on Altera FPGAs or MicroBlaze on Xilinx FRGAs -- and you can run Linux on any sofy or hard core on an FPGA so long as it has an appropriate Memory Management Unit (MMU)

Blogger

@Max - Can you compare your FPGA explanation to that of SOC?

Iron

"Did you find the scope?"  No

"Didi it still work?" See previous answer :-)

"What happened next?" I thought they woudl take it out of my miniscule salery -- they were just "oh well, this stuff happens"

"Did you ever find out why there was such a big void area under the glass furnace?" I never did -- I've often wondered

Blogger

Max, have you heard of anyone putting an actual OS on a FPGA. I have heard someone is putting Linux on an FPGA!

@gschmick: http://micrium.com/page/downloads/os-iii_projects

Iron

@Ran -- the usual thing is that you hav eth emicrocontroller executing regular code -- then it will pass some data to the FPGA -- tell th eFPGA to deal with uit -- the FPGA will perform humongous amount sof calculations very quickly (the microcontroller can carry on doing its own thing) and then th eFPGA is finished it hand the results back to the microcontroller

Blogger

Max,

Did you find the scope?

Didi it still work?

What happened next?

Did you ever find out why there was such a big void area under the glass furnace?

Iron


Did you see "Star Trek meets Monty Python" www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9PGcnM10lA

Blogger

@Max - Your conversation with Alex...  Can you elaborate the OS and control differences between FPGA and SOC.

Iron

Yes, it was great to have fun with you presentations, in addition to having fun with your articles on EET.

Iron

Phew -- that's the first one

Blogger

Darth Vader in the Death Star Canteen www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv5iEK-IEzw

Blogger

I'm trying to post them and nothing is coming through

Blogger

What about "those videos"?

Iron

Tnaks Max, It was a real pleasure attending the past few weeks. It reminds me of my early military training when the most entertaining and effective instructors mixed "war stories" with the lesson material. That was back when some of them had first hand experiece on Lancasters for maritime patrol in the RCAF.

Iron

Thank you everyone for attending and for all the kind words

Blogger

Thanks Max, for sharing information and experience.

Iron

@caa028: Thanks! I assume that 's the micrium site.

Iron

Max, thank you for a great lecture... tons of fun (as usual)!

Iron

thanks max, a great two weeks of excellent presentation and information. thanks for sharing your knowledge and experiences

Iron

Thanks Max and Alex.

Iron

Thanks Alex.  See you on Monday.

Iron

Thanks for the great session, Max!

Iron

@gscmick: Micrium book is available for free download - in exchange for registration on their website...

Iron

Let's go down to the lobby...

Iron

Thanks for a couple of weeks of good basic background info, Max.

Here's the url for the Micrium book.  $90, not cheap!

http://www.amazon.com/Performance-Preemptive-Multitasking-Microprocessors-Microcontrollers/dp/0982337531/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1331923350&sr=1-1

Iron

I'm here, waiting for the videos.

 

Iron

oops... just lost the audio (player disappeared rom the page) - had to reload...

Iron

Thanks Max. Great presentation.

Iron

@Max- Hysterical!

Iron

@Max, could have had a different ending. talk about lighting up your life.

Iron

Don;t go away - -I have those great videos

Blogger

Max, appreciate for two weeks great presentation.

Iron

The main point was that there's a world of difference designing a control system in th eoffice with a pencil and paper, and being out in the field ...

Blogger

Max, Thanks for the courses over the last weeks, very interesting.

Iron

Thanks Max.  Nice conclusion.

Iron

It was plugged in for the first 50 feet or so -- then it reAChed the end of the cable and became unplugged

Blogger

Thanks for another great session Max!

this sounds as catartrophic as the Japanese nuclear disaster, Ma.

Iron

Thanks for the two weeks of excellent presentations, Max.  Enjoyed the entire sequence. 

Was the scope still plugged in??!!!

Iron

Students always get the dirty jobs  :-)

Iron

@timmer116 - patience

Iron

not sure about a point, but it's entertaining... wonder if the furnace was filled with molten glass...

Iron

I have never had such a disasterous online experience as today. Lost the network again.

Iron

@timmer116- They usually do; give him a chance.

Iron

does this story have a point?

Iron

Good session. Thanks

Iron

beware of the 'cloud', there are storms that occur instantly

Iron

@danlafleur- My connection is doing it as well.  Max is also getting lower every once in awhile, but I think that is just him pushing back from the microphone.

Iron

I had a eval board and play with it.  there are OA and other comp in diff cells what you can conect them in diff ways as you do in fpga with your cells.  there is also the s/w with it to be able to do that.

Iron

I have never seen FPAA before; if you hadn't pointed it out, slk, I would've assumed that it was a typo.  Thanks for that!

Iron

@slk: that web page does not have much info... do you have any experience with these?

Iron

luizcosta - Lucky they are archived.  Has happened to me as well

Iron

is something going on in the cloud. my connection gets very sluggish and spurts the pages at odd times.

Iron

@slk: Do you mean PAL, GAL and such?

Iron

@slk: thx, just googled it up...

Iron

Hi folks, I'm so tired. For 38 full minutes I'm trying to get online and logged in to this course

I'm sorry to be so late.

Iron

thanks slk, will check it out later.

Iron

field programmable analog aray - fpaa

Iron

www.anadigm.com/fpaa.asp

Iron

everibody heard about fpga, but there is something nice on the analog side too: fpaa

Iron

I still get a kick out of the Lucy episode at the chocolate factory.

Iron

I thought I heard Max saying that he would also be coming back to hear that.

Iron

Was Alex saying something around the beginning of this session about something else going on later, or was he talking about next week?

Iron

@slk - yes, my outlook calendar says the same

Iron

@Alex - Thanks for the clarification.

Iron

System-Level Testing & Debugging" does indeed start MONDAY, MARCH 19.

Blogger

Be sure to click 'Today's Slide Deck' under Special Educational Materials above right to download the PowerPoint for today's session.

Blogger

@ ran - the calendar you saw is correct. next sesion is on 19

Iron

I have no idea why some old my posts are repeated. Sorry. There is some connection problem with my comp

Iron

@greekeng  - at least at how fast can do things , store info and access it,  ... yes

Iron

@Alex - Can you please clarify?  I am confused.  It was my understanding that next week there would NOT be a presentation.  However, your "Curriculum Calendar" web page shows the track titled "System-Level Testing & Debugging" starting on Monday, March 19, which is 3 days from now - not 10 days from now.  Where am I going wrong here?

Iron

I meant bored not board.

Iron

@Greekeng: neighbour, change your language settings :-)

Iron

Horriyatm - Max is 'winging it' quite a bit today.  Only 8 slides total.  You did not miss anything

Iron

Maybe when machines are complex enough to be board or mortal.

Iron

power points is refering basic concepts?

 

Iron

2 danlafleur - this is why step-by-step was placed in the IDE

Iron

In 80th for testing each part of the designed system, we had to build test-board to simlate the circuit.

Iron

So is there going to be a point when a machine becomes so smart so complex that it becomes as reliable as a person... hmmmm

Iron

response time in h/w is most of the time fast, ... in s/w is slow, but the s/w is always limited by the h/w

Iron

@slk, there was a certain level of confidence when I could single step the code and look at the hardware and register values with a front panel console or debugger through a terminal. Freeze the program and probe the hardware for the trouble.

Iron

shades of the connection machine circa 1985.

what I see in powerpoint is only basic forms every engineer knows and I think I miss other slides that presenter is giving his speech

 

Iron

it is interesting that for a machine to pass the Turing Maching test it must not be deterministic.  Peaple never respond reliably.

Iron

@ danlafleur - true, and now you need to simulate it.  this is the diff between asm and other high level languages 

Iron

Even if you are using assembly programming the computer SOCs are much more complex and they are not Von Neumann machines anymore (for a long time now)

we may not even know what micro we're using for a target

Iron

Alex, I agree. Back when I had to count cycle time for uP, I had a good feel for how the system worked. Now the cycle time is transparent until I have a timing issue.

Iron

Max, you could have had a front row seat!

Iron

determinism as in fixed aglorithm or free will as in genetic algorithm?

Iron

determinism is an exact science

Iron

hello everyone. time for another great presentation.

Iron

I think the guy whom did the actual presentation is an expert speaker..

Iron

Oh wait..of course it was real, Max.

@"That video was done as an inside joke by Rockwell employees."

You mean it wasn't real???

Blogger

That video was done as an inside joke by Rockwell employees.

You can dance all you want, if you let Susan Boyle sing!

Iron

Welcome back Max.

Iron

Does the dance come with a song???

Iron

Hey Alex.  You were missed yesterday.

Iron

I had a AB sales guy try to quote the excabulator,, he also most lost it when he found out what is was.. lol

Iron

As soon as we finish today I will be doing my "Happy Friday Dance" (it's not a pretty sight :-)

Blogger

Good afternoon Alex and Max.  Looking forward to another great session today.

Iron

HAPPY FRIDAY to everyone

Blogger

Still here, in Michigan [after the storms last night]

Iron

Yes, the encabulator video went around the office here yesterday with lots of fun.

Iron

hello, Max and Alex

Iron

Good morning Max, Alex and all. Happy Friday.

Iron

@Daedalus "thanks again Max for the "encabulator" video"

I have som eother good ones to share with you at the end (whichis my cunning way of making you stay :-)

Blogger

YOu know it's much easier to design PCBs, full factory automation systems than work with Windows.. lol

Iron

Hi All and thanks again Max for the "encabulator" video

Iron

I tried this before and Windows 7 gave me some major issues, so i used an external translator.. which was good until i imported..

Iron

@Greekeng: neighbour, change your language settings :-)

Iron

Καλ?ς ?ρθατε και π?λι ?λεξ

That's easy for you to say!!!

Blogger

Hello Alex and Max.. Happy Friday to you all.

Iron

Ah did not translate well.. oh well

Iron

Καλ?ς ?ρθατε και π?λι ?λεξ

Iron

Welcome Back Alex..

Iron

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Blogger

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