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sensor pro
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$100 Fisker Karma EV
sensor pro   3/12/2012 10:44:32 AM
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I guess releasing a product that has tooooooo much electronics without substantial testinmg and verification will do that to you.

To me it is an expensive untested toy.  If anything, the new Ashton-Martin looks super, and costs less. ( ONLY $231,000.00  !!!!!!!!!!! )

Rich Merritt
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Re: $100 Fisker Karma EV
Rich Merritt   3/12/2012 11:46:30 AM
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When you say "bricked," does that mean the battery pack died and has to be replaced for $40,000 and isn't covered by the warranty? Seems like we just discussed this very same problem with the Tesla.

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Re: $100 Fisker Karma EV
sensor pro   3/12/2012 11:49:48 AM
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I think "BRICKED" really means that the 100K car became a 100K brick, standing and doing nothing, like a paperweight.

You are correct, we all talked about the battery already.

Rich Merritt
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Re: $100 Fisker Karma EV
Rich Merritt   3/12/2012 12:08:49 PM
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Yes, we did cover it. But the Tesla story said the battery became a "brick" in that it was totally useless and had to be replaced for $40,000. We don't know in this case if it is another bricked, useless  battery that has to be replaced, or--like you say--the car itself just has an electronic problem and needs to be fixed.

I suspect that, because it is Consumer Reports having the problem, that Fisker will fall all over themselves to straignten it out at no charge under warranty. I wonder if they would do the same for any other consumer?

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Re: $100 Fisker Karma EV
sensor pro   3/12/2012 12:21:47 PM
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I agree that they wood fix it under warantee. They will do the same for its clients, as if you look at their names, I'm sure that their attorneys would demand that.

Rich Merritt
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Re: $100 Fisker Karma EV
Rich Merritt   3/12/2012 12:30:02 PM
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As you may recall from the Tesla story, Tesla doesn't replace a bricked battery pack under warranty, no matter how old the car is. Even if it's only a few weeks old, like this Fisker. So it's not a certainty that Fisker will replace it for free. Being Consumer Reports, of course, I'm sure they will--but what about others?

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Re: $100 Fisker Karma EV
sensor pro   3/12/2012 12:36:14 PM
I do feel that due to such a response to this issue all ove the net, Fiscar would do all possible to look good. When it come to Tesla, I was very surprized by their negative treatment of consumers. I'm sure they will lern or be gone.

Now there are a lot of players that will have electric cars or hybrids to compete with Tesla, so if they do not change their attitude, they will become history.

roybarton
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Re: $100 Fisker Karma EV
roybarton   3/12/2012 1:32:55 PM
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My Macbook had a glitch too, big deal.  Besides a mandatory recall which is common for new cars, each of the Fisker Karma's (that's two now) that needed service since have been directly somehow related to Solyndra.  Political football?  Yeah slightly.  These cars are made in the same factory that produces Porsche Cayman, a car that also had its glitches in the beginning (google it).  No evidence of bricking here mate, sensational journalism is all.

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Re: $100 Fisker Karma EV
roybarton   3/12/2012 1:34:42 PM
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If you don't know if it was bricked, then why did you say it was in the TITLE of your article? Very sloppy writing for a site called DesignNews.

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Re: $100 Fisker Karma EV
naperlou   3/12/2012 1:45:36 PM
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I doubt if the battery here costs $40K to replace, like in the Tesla.  The Tesla is an all-electric vehicle.  This battery is smaller.  On the other hand, if the electrical system completely froze up it may not be cheap.  I think one of the problems with these vehicles is the battery technology that requires active measures to keep it running. 

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