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JSRL
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JSRL   3/1/2012 6:11:54 PM
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I know and worked with the author of this report and can testify that he is one heck of a good engineer. 

John Lawrence

Larry M
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Re: Faulty windows a result of the accident?
Larry M   3/1/2012 5:58:04 PM
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Found the actual photographs, did you, Martin? Very scary, aren't they.

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Re: Faulty windows a result of the accident?
Larry M   3/1/2012 5:56:31 PM
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anatech wrote:

"One very prominent manufacturer of aftermarket parts boasts that they re-engineered the part to eliminate the failure modes. Their replacement part can be had for as little as $43.00.

Which would you buy?"

In this case, a GM that I would repair the lamp in.  :)"

Uhhh, I don't think so. The assembly consists of two pieces of plastic bonded together so well that they can only be separated destructively. I am going to cut two failed assemblies open to determint the exact failure modes, but these will not be suitable for reassembly.

I've repaired a lot of "non-repairable" things, and will probably repair these, but they won't be reusable.

Anatech also wrote:

"Saab makes a really cool car too, ..."

Uhhh, yeah. Click and Clack (Tom and Ray Magliozzi) described Saab as a car put together by designers who never looked at how anyone else was doing it. Battery under the driver's seat? Clutch out in front, under the radiator? How about those 1998-2001s which all had the premature transmission failure that required a $2700 replacement unit. There was a reason why GM dumped them, and a reason why no one else would have them.

 

 

 

anatech
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Re: Faulty windows a result of the accident?
anatech   3/1/2012 5:23:57 PM
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Hi Jim

"One very prominent manufacturer of aftermarket parts boasts that they re-engineered the part to eliminate the failure modes. Their replacement part can be had for as little as $43.00.

Which would you buy?"


In this case, a GM that I would repair the lamp in.  :)

To answer a question like this, most of us require a lot more information to go on.  After considering my experiences with well over 25 cars, the answer is easy.  BTW, look at the "Black" or "Red" book values on cars after they are 5 years old.  That is a reasonably reliable indicator on how much that model is worth.

You may have guessed our family has a lot of experience in the auto industry, and you would be right.  In this case, that door was probably taken off another vehicle and maybe repainted to match.  That is common practice and there is normally nothing wrong with that.  And yes, the vehicle the door came from had this fault from when it was brand new.  But, the used door is better than yours repaired in this case.  The original door would never have been the same, and probably have been very noisy.


Other cars to consider?  A KIA (one saved my life) or BMW.  Saab makes a really cool car too, and they are quiet at speed (not a surprise considering they make fighter planes too).

 

-Chris




Martin.Stoehr
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Re: Faulty windows a result of the accident?
Martin.Stoehr   3/1/2012 5:04:15 PM
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Now I may have to retract my last post after reading a little more on the subject.  Sorry about that--I am always the skeptic, sometimes in the wrong direction.

Martin.Stoehr
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Re: Faulty windows a result of the accident?
Martin.Stoehr   3/1/2012 4:52:21 PM
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RadioGuy
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Re: Precession soldering
RadioGuy   3/1/2012 12:29:25 PM
Precession soldering?

You mean they rotate the board while it is hot in the flow soldering channel?

And the board is wobbling as it rotates? Good Lord - no wonder they have quality problems!

Larry M
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Re: Faulty windows a result of the accident?
Larry M   3/1/2012 9:57:27 AM
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Hmm.  Wait until we start tracing these faults to tin-whiskers due to the misguided European RoHS campaign.

Ooops. I'm sorry.  We'ce already done that.  Look for the reports on tin whiskers in the Toyota throttle-by-wire unit.

By the way, has anyone else noted that the rich-text posting editor doesn't work. My last post used the indent feature, but the indent was once the post went live.

Larry M
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Re: Faulty windows a result of the accident?
Larry M   3/1/2012 9:51:57 AM
JimT wrote:

Third –party component manufactures have no responsibility for the overall quality of an electrical system, because they have "no skin in the game", so to speak.  They are trying only to peddle after-market modules.


Jim, you are painting the aftermarket with too broad a brush. Virtually all of the high-mounted brakelights on 2000-2006 Suburbans, Tahoes, Yukons, Yukon XLs, and CK-1500 pickups failed within a few years. The GM list price for that part is $223.00. (The GM parts counterman said "No, we don't think it's unreasonable to replace that part every few years for $223.00.) There is no ECO on this part--they sell you the same weak-sister part that you got originally.

One very prominent manufacturer of aftermarket parts boasts that they re-engineered the part to eliminate the failure modes. Their replacement part can be had for as little as $43.00.

Which would you buy?

Mydesign
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Precession soldering
Mydesign   3/1/2012 1:30:03 AM
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It seems that the author have a good debugging knowledge and analytical skill. The entire malfunctioning happens because of the soldering problem and it implies to the accuracy in precession soldering.

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