HOME  |  NEWS  |  BLOGS  |  MESSAGES  |  FEATURES  |  VIDEOS  |  WEBINARS  |  INDUSTRIES  |  FOCUS ON FUNDAMENTALS
  |  REGISTER  |  LOGIN  |  HELP
<<  <  Page 3/3
Alexander Wolfe
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Added Art
Alexander Wolfe   2/28/2012 4:16:21 PM
NO RATINGS
Chas makes a great point re aircraft being design largely for efficiency rather than looks. It'd be interesting to see what would happen if Ford and GM did concept cars stemming from a similar engineering imperative. There is actually something like this in the racing world. I couldn't find it on Google, but I recall at the car shows around five years ago, they were exhibiting a standardized chassis with roll cage etc, into which anyone could pop their own engine and drive train.

ChasChas
User Rank
Platinum
Added Art
ChasChas   2/28/2012 12:40:05 PM
NO RATINGS
Autos are getting a little more interesting now. For years, most changes were in the looks - I call it the "added art".

Compare auto design with manufacturing machines and aircraft. Added art is almost none existent in the latter. The beauty is in the funtionality with minimum fuss and maximum efficiency.

Like I say, cars are getting interesting again - not just adding a useless fin or egging out a headlight to look like some action hero's weapon.

 

 

 

Rob Spiegel
User Rank
Blogger
Re: New shapes
Rob Spiegel   2/28/2012 11:20:59 AM
NO RATINGS
That makes sense, Chuck. I wonder if that will change as we now seem to be entering a period of healthy automaker profits. Or, it could be that cost-cutting measures will become a fixed position. Of course, that could change if one company broke out with something new and was rewarded with increased sales.

naperlou
User Rank
Blogger
Re: New shapes
naperlou   2/28/2012 9:53:07 AM
NO RATINGS
Frankly, chuck, I think Detroit would have done well to produce some of their previous, wilder concept cars.  They got a little too stodgy.

As for hybrids, I find it somewhat less than exciting.  There are shops that will install a hybrid drive train in an existing car.  It is pricey, but if you have the money and desire, it can be done.  So, while it is an interesting design challenge, it is not "exciting" technology.  The trick is to make them efficient and inexpensive.  That is where they will have an impact.  For cars, the trick is to come out, continuously, with incremental improvements.  A 10% improvement in effeciency across the board is a huge thing.  In the US, I think about 15M to 20M cars are sold each year.  If I have my figures right, that is on the order of 10% of the vehicle fleet.  So, each 10% increase in effeciency is 1% overall.  While there is some room for small cars like the Smart Car, the appeal there is limited.  It is cute, though.  I drove one once at Beaulieu, in the UK.  It was fun, but I was not convinced (my car back then was an Alfa Romeo). 

Charles Murray
User Rank
Blogger
Re: New shapes
Charles Murray   2/27/2012 7:34:33 PM
NO RATINGS
Rob: I believe the issue with concept cars today is lack of money. Designers are being pushed to create concept cars that hint, maybe not so subtly, at upcoming production vehicles. The era of wildness, when designers could really let it out, is mostly back in the rear-view mirror. Honda's Accord concepts, for example, will actually be coming out later this year as production vehicles.

Rob Spiegel
User Rank
Blogger
New shapes
Rob Spiegel   2/27/2012 12:36:53 PM
NO RATINGS
Nice slide show, Chuck. I was struck by a couple new designs -- the Chrysler 700 C is certainly a new look for the minivan, and the Volkswagon Bug Roadster is also an interesting look. But I agree with Alex, much of the advances are under the hood.

Alexander Wolfe
User Rank
Blogger
Design conservatism?
Alexander Wolfe   2/27/2012 11:43:47 AM
NO RATINGS
What struck me most about this crop of concept cars is the generally conservative approach to design. My take is that when tech isn't advancing (like say 20 years ago), the designers really go to town on external body shell. These days, the progress is under the hood, in the power train etc. So perhaps that's why these concept cars look so much more like real production cars -- and in fact some of the will be soon; at least one in 2013.

<<  <  Page 3/3


Partner Zone
Latest Analysis
Take a look at the top 20 US undergraduate engineering programs. Then tell us -- did your school make the cut?
Producing high-quality end-production metal parts with additive manufacturing for applications like aerospace and medical requires very tightly controlled processes and materials. New standards and guidelines for machines and processes, materials, and printed parts are underway from bodies such as ASTM International.
Engineers at the University of San Diego’s Jacobs School of Engineering have designed biobatteries on commercial tattoo paper, with an anode and cathode screen-printed on and modified to harvest energy from lactate in a person’s sweat.
A Silicon Valley company has made the biggest splash yet in the high-performance end of the electric car market, announcing an EV that zips from 0 to 60 mph in 3.4 seconds and costs $529,000.
The biggest robot swarm to date is made of 1,000 Kilobots, which can follow simple rules to autonomously assemble into predetermined shapes. Hardware and software are open-source.
More:Blogs|News
Design News Webinar Series
7/23/2014 11:00 a.m. California / 2:00 p.m. New York
7/17/2014 11:00 a.m. California / 2:00 p.m. New York
6/25/2014 11:00 a.m. California / 2:00 p.m. New York
5/13/2014 10:00 a.m. California / 1:00 p.m. New York / 6:00 p.m. London
Quick Poll
The Continuing Education Center offers engineers an entirely new way to get the education they need to formulate next-generation solutions.
Sep 8 - 12, Get Ready for the New Internet: IPv6
SEMESTERS: 1  |  2  |  3  |  4  |  5  |  6


Focus on Fundamentals consists of 45-minute on-line classes that cover a host of technologies. You learn without leaving the comfort of your desk. All classes are taught by subject-matter experts and all are archived. So if you can't attend live, attend at your convenience.
Next Class: September 30 - October 2
Sponsored by Altera
Learn More   |   Login   |   Archived Classes
Twitter Feed
Design News Twitter Feed
Like Us on Facebook

Sponsored Content

Technology Marketplace

Copyright © 2014 UBM Canon, A UBM company, All rights reserved. Privacy Policy | Terms of Service