1000s of scientists today, with advanced degrees in atmospheric science, claim the global warming alarmists are wrong.
See the list of 31,000+ scientists with advanced degrees who said basically the same thing (over 3000 with degrees in atmospheric science and over 5000 in Physics and Aerospace science, and 9000 with PhDs). Unfortunately, some of the scientists on this list have been verbally attacked so much that many of them would like to have not signed the petition. This list has also been attacked by claiming these were mostly made up names and titles. But even Wikipedia claims they are real scientists due to the test that was done:
"Scientific American took a random sample of 30 of the 1,400 signatories claiming to hold a Ph.D. in a climate-related science. Of the 26 we were able to identify in various databases ..."
The enemies of this petition have even gone through the trouble to send physical letters in the mail as if they were real scientists, so they could get a few names on the list that were not real scientists (so they can discredit all the real signatures). See http://www.petitionproject.org/ or http://www.oism.org/pproject/
What does the evidence say? Even those who are Christians (Bible Christians, not denominational Christians) know what the Bible says in 1 Thess 5:21. It says, "Test all things, hold fast what is good." A Christian must follow the evidence because they have committed themselves to a love of (sacrifice for) the truth (see www.MiraculousBible.org or www.WhyBaptism.org). Right now the evidence for concern over Global Warming is primarily based on assumptions that have been disproved by other scientific facts (ice core data conflicts with erosion rates, etc.).
I came across an interesting article a while ago, and found my copy again recently. The author presented a very reasonable explanation of how global warming does cause an increase in th amount of carbon dioxide produced. So even if all the data were completely correct, it may be that the interpretation is wrong, and that the cause and effect are incorrect. What happens if it is something else warming up the planet, and the result is an increase in carbon dioxide? And what happens if the frantic efforts to reduce it's production have no effect at all? And meanwhile whatever is in fact causing the warming trend gets no attention at all? Of course that suggests that the cause would actually be something that we could change, and not something like a long, slow cycle in the amount ofsolar energy delivered.
Remember that old tale about the folks who believed that it was the tree branches waving that caused the wind to blow? But after they cut down all the trees to stop the wind they discovered that was not the case. And so now that country has to import all of it's wood, since they have no trees. We should examine our system and make sure we avoid making a similar mistake.
ambassador, thanks for supporting my point that the original post is one-sided. However, you are just justifying it as not being balanced because you think there needs to be more such articles in order to balance against everything else in the media (outside of UBM). Journalism should be balanced when there is no wrong or right, just opinion. Here there are facts and science at stake. Presenting junk science as counterbalance for real science is not good journalism, "balanced" or not, just like the article's cherry-picking a handful of scientists' opinion as carrying convincing scientific weight is no substitute for sorting out the science and presenting that handful of scientists in context against the thousands of actual climate scientists (97-98% has been estimated without contradiction) who recognize AGW.
Thanks again, though, for acknowledging the bias in Mr. Murray's post.
The contention here is that humans are causing the climate to change. However, millions of years before humans were on the scene, the earth was warmer than it is now.
Have you considered that earth may be at it's natural temperature for this period of time? That if human activity never existed, we might still be at this same temperature right now?
There is a level of hubris in taking responsibility for current partially perceived state of system that is both massive and complex and only partially understood. 30 years ago, these same global warming advocates (and advocates they are) were decrying the coming ice age.
In my opinion, this is the balance. If you added up the number of dissenting scientists as a percentage of believing scientists, and then you add up the number of dissenting articles, against the unbalanced believing articles, TV shows, books etc. I think the percentages would be pretty close. I here your tone being political, which in my opinion is the problem. This has become more of a political issue than a scientific one.
I am not one who disbelieves in globel climate change, but I am also a scientist and do not believe you have read the article correctly. The article did not conclude that putting tons of CO2 in the atmosphere does not have unforseen affects, it just says there are dissenting opinions that don't believe it does what the supporters of global climate change are saying. That includes both degree and malevolence. THey say the data is inconclusive.
That is the answer they would give to your question, and it is a scientifically valid answer. It has not been proven scientifically to the level as such things as 1st and 2nd law of thermodynamics etc. THe problem lies in the ramifications of us being wrong. If most are wrong about global climate change, then we have been hurt economically for a short period. If most are correct, then we are in for some large trouble. It makes sense to me to try to fix even potential problems.
It is true that global warming is not universally accepted by all scientists, just like the moon landing is not believed by all the general public. But can anyone make a coherent argument that releasing millons of years of sequestered carbon into our atmosphere cannot be expected to have unforseen consequences?
Interesting article. For those of you defending the viewpoint presented to the angry global warming proponents who will accept no disent, I'd say don't bother. Clearly, with these people it is at the point of radicalized religion. Any attempt to debate this will shouted down with name-calling. Anybody who disagrees is simply ignorant or worse.
UBM gets a new black eye for dishonesty, anti-science, and biased journalism every time it re-spams the link to this deplorable post, as it did again today. If it or Charles Murray had an ounce of integrity they would update this with a corrected post that is accurate and honest to science.
A more balanced post would at least counterbalance your post about 16 scientists believing "no," with reporting at least equal weight to 255 real climate scientists who say "yes," the science of global warming is indeed incontrovertible. It would only add to the interest of readers to point out that the Wall Street Journal refused to publish the rebuttal from these 255 scientists. Do you care, Mr. Murray?
As it stands, UBM and Charles Murray are just toeing the line for right-wing politics and the fossil fuel lobby. That's no way for a legitimate media organization to operate.
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