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Watashi
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Re: Derivitive styling?
Watashi   1/27/2012 12:36:40 PM
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Dodge might have a case with their Prowler, although it is currently out of production.

BillFZ1
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Derivitive styling?
BillFZ1   1/27/2012 12:04:25 PM
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Have any of you guys and girls ever seen a Lotus Super 7? This car looks so much like one  Lotus should cry copyright infringement. This car is very much in the TOY catagory no matter how much design engineering went into it. For many older drivers the seat height alone would be a problem. I'm glad that they could use the tools to optimize it, but it will always be for a splinter market. I also get a kick out of the comment, "It cut the number of prototypes by 50%." Was that from two to one? If I want a performance car I'll by a Corvette. Good support and an excellent bang for the buck.

Style is a subjective thing, one persons cute is anothers ugly. I find the subject of this article to be too throwback for my taste. Cycle fenders, come on. The drag on this thing is going to be through the roof for such a small car.

Bill J

Ann R. Thryft
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Carbon fiber really gets around
Ann R. Thryft   1/27/2012 11:54:07 AM
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Interesting that carbon fiber was used in the chassis. This wunderkind material is really getting around, whether in composites or on its own.


Rob Spiegel
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Re: Curved lines
Rob Spiegel   1/27/2012 11:03:31 AM
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That's funny, Bill. I like its cartoonish look. Very over-the-top, a modern version of a 1940s roadster. Looks like it weights a ton, but apparently it doesn't.

Tcrook
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Re: working smarter, not harder
Tcrook   1/27/2012 10:49:44 AM
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Always fun to analyze carmaker claims from the comfort of an armchair.  This one has many that raise one's eyebrows.   400 HP at  5400 rpm with no turbo from 2480cc  -  Really?   0 - 100 k/h in 3 seconds with RWD only?   Less than 1500 lbs?   Of course I don't read Dutch so I could have missed the magic ingredient.

But I love those numbers, it's what I'd love to drive.   Now, about those looks....

Watashi
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working smarter, not harder
Watashi   1/27/2012 9:56:13 AM
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The tightly integrated design team has a lot of advantages.  I'm sure saving on the number of prototypes saved money.

I'm more of a muscle car guy, but I'd try this open wheeler...when I win the lottery.

Beth Stackpole
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Re: Curved lines
Beth Stackpole   1/27/2012 8:52:48 AM
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Chuck, while we didn't talk specifically about surface modeling work done on the D8 GTO, you just have to look at it and see it's an obvious candidate for that kind of software. 

Rob, to address your points about looks. The whole design challenge with this car was to make it more "muscley" and higher performance, but also take weight out of the car even when adding some more safety functionality in the door frames. While achieving those goals, the team had to keep the car looking like its heritage which is definitely something that heralds from another time and place. Likely not a design for the masses, but for the wealthy driving enthusiasts that are the target audience.

Beth Stackpole
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Re: Curved lines
Beth Stackpole   1/27/2012 8:52:38 AM
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Chuck, while we didn't talk specifically about surface modeling work done on the D8 GTO, you just have to look at it and see it's an obvious candidate for that kind of software. 

Rob, to address your points about looks. The whole design challenge with this car was to make it more "muscley" and higher performance, but also take weight out of the car even when adding some more safety functionality in the door frames. While achieving those goals, the team had to keep the car looking like its heritage which is definitely something that heralds from another time and place. Likely not a design for the masses, but for the wealthy driving enthusiasts that are the target audience.

Alexander Wolfe
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High value, low volume
Alexander Wolfe   1/26/2012 3:13:42 PM
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To me, this is almost a case of CAD meets kit car. This is a high performance, high cost, low volume automobile. Its design and manufacture would probably be economically unviable without the time/cost/knowledge/ leverage provided by an advanced CAD/CAE program, where you can in effect do virtual design, testing, and prototyping.

Rob Spiegel
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Re: Virtual trial and error
Rob Spiegel   1/26/2012 1:11:21 PM
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Another interesting thing about this car is its looks. Apparently the company really wanted its vehicle to stand out. It looks like it came from another era, heck, another planet. With so many recent American cars looking alike, the Donkervoort is refreshing.

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