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herbissimus
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Re: The good and bad of telematics
herbissimus   1/22/2012 7:44:03 PM
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sorry, don't take my remark about the dongle that monitors your driving as an expert analysis. i'm just extrapolating from a product  advertised for sale for $15  at tiger direct that recorded your gps coordinates at short intervals  every time the auto is moving and would download to a pc via usb. seems like enough data to infer the care and consideration of a driver for insurance purposes, thus the premium. could be behavior mod on a grand scale !

Alexander Wolfe
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Re: The good and bad of telematics
Alexander Wolfe   1/18/2012 5:58:58 PM
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Thanks for the information, herbissmus. I had actually assumed that the dongle shown in those omnipresent Progressive insurance commercials was a prop, much like those boxes the actors pick off of the shelves to "buy" their insurance. That leads to the thought that, if most people had a dongle in their car monitoring their real-world driving habits, wouldn't their insurance rates go UP? I'm betting the answer is mostly yes.

Alexander Wolfe
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Re: Another car maker researching composites
Alexander Wolfe   1/16/2012 1:17:17 PM
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BMW is clearly in the forefront of the use of production composites in automotive. OTOH, the i5 and i8 are going to be relatively low-volume cars. But this does give BMW an advantage as far as coming up the learning curve and addressing the cost issue. Good example and thanks for pointing it out.

chzweben
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Re: Another car maker researching composites
chzweben   1/14/2012 6:58:49 PM
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regarding use of composites in automobiles, it is no table that bmw and sgl have opened a carbon fiber plant in moses lake, washington to supply material for the bmw i3 and i8 vehicles. the bmwi cars are scheduled to enter production in 2013.

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Charles Murray
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Re: Patience required
Charles Murray   1/13/2012 5:39:15 PM
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Alex: We all have to hope Mercedes battery R&D people are right.

herbissimus
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Re: The good and bad of telematics
herbissimus   1/13/2012 5:15:03 PM
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progressive insurance has the kind of telematics-electronics autos need more of: a dongle plugged into the lighter outlet that monitors one's driving, and if the driving is moderate and careful, the insurance rate decreases. they're onto something. moore's law will make this thing so powerful in the not too distant future that dangerous drivers will be priced off the highways... leaving the rest of us with no more traffic jams and smooth, safe "sailing"

tedbeau
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Re: The good and bad of telematics
tedbeau   1/13/2012 2:17:06 PM
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DMAYEADS hit it right on the head. We have enough distracted drivers and idiots telling people where they are and how much money they have on them now, we don't need people telling the car behind them where they are headed and how long they plan on being there. WAKE UP PEOPLE!

DMayEADS
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Re: The good and bad of telematics
DMayEADS   1/13/2012 11:38:56 AM
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I have to agree with Beth and Jerry.  Living in Southern California, I'm concerned about yet another distraction.  Let's face it, it's hard enough to shave or put on make-up, drink coffee, smoke cigarettes, talk on the phone and offer obscene hand gestures as it is.

At least Mercedes Benz incorporates lane departure warning systems and collision avoidance systems on many of their models.  This may help reduce distracted driver crashes.

As for battery development, I don't believe we will see a major change in capability until a truly new technology is introduced.  Until then, it will be minor improvements.

A bit off topic, but years ago, the rage was Fuel Cell technology.  I haven't seen much about it lately.  It boasted how clean it was, amazing in power output vs. power expended and contained in a much smaller package than batteries.  Other than expense in its manufacture, it seemed like the next alternative technology.  Then it fell off the map.

didymus7
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didymus7   1/13/2012 10:58:43 AM
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"Well, officer, I had just finished updating my facebook page when I looked  up and saw this tractor-trailer right in front of me...."

Jerry dycus
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Re: The good and bad of telematics
Jerry dycus   1/13/2012 9:45:07 AM
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          The distraction of all those electronics is going to make those killed by texting look small.   Not to mention the costs of repairs. KIS

           On composites, they have had cost effective composites for 30 yrs. Why would they use more than a token amount now?  CF is marketing hype in 95% of the cases.

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