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Thanks ... Nice information. Something like I've seen on downloads free

Iron

ooo.... thanks for your nice information ..great blog.I have to change it to embedded just to get the threaded reply. Abrakadabra

Iron

thank you everyone !!

 

Iron

I look forward to hearing more about OSLC soon.

Iron

we got many - Siemens is building a lot of Mechatronics products from Energy, Machines, Heathcare etc

Iron

Nice program, Beth and Pascal. Thanks.

Blogger

Thanks so much for your time and insights, Pascal. This concludes this edition of Design News Radio.

Blogger

Where would you employ a Mechatronic engineer at Siemens?

Iron

yes....well sounds a bit utopic to me...I don;t think you can mix up cultures and domain knowldeges BUT something like PLM would help to make it look like ONE

Iron

That's an interesting concept, Omar. Pascal, what do you think of that and have you seen any indication of this among Siemens PLM Software customers?

Blogger

to Toshio: not sure I understand the suggestion but in the SW world the functional definition of what functions should perform the product would usually be the right approach - and a function does not assume how you are going to implement and is valid for all engineering areas

Iron

Maybe it is time to change the traditional structure of engineering departments, rather than having three separate ones.

Iron

Meaning the more embedded code your products incorporate, the greater the integration need and the greater the challenges lie ahead?

Blogger

well eventually this is a situation across all industries. Although more you go with embedded and more you are going to see challenges increasing

Iron

SInce the radio went off how many are still online but here is my one cent worth of a suggestion for help bridge between the two, i.e mechanical and enbedded designers. If you review our object code they are named for programmer liking term for ease of coding.

So the same talken can the embedded high level coding to be named after the mechanical engineer liking? For instance to halt machine at some instance the code naming be "machine off". Suggest developing code name with mechanical team very early on the project where it is cheap to make mistake.

Silver

Is there any particular industry where this focus on bridging the mechanical and embedded worlds is most acute? You talked about automotive and aerospace--others?

Blogger

everyone owns it - it's not one discipline that can own it. It is a collaboration framework

Iron

Moving to engineering groups, but which: Mechanical, electrical or embedded? Or does it belong to a group that's over all of those functional departments, for example, a PLM program office or something of that ilk?

Blogger

this is changing and is moving to engineering groups as really they have become the stakeholders in the product definition

Iron

yes it has been traditionnaly own by IT but...

Iron

about:

As multi disciplines extend their use of siloed tools to leverage a PLM platform, who typically owns the PLM platform--any particular discipline or is it IT?

Iron

more on OSLC : wait a bit this will come soon

Iron

As multi disciplines extend their use of siloed tools to leverage a PLM platform, who typically owns the PLM platform--any particular discipline or is it IT?

Blogger

I would love to hear more committent from Siemens about OSLC.  I have done research to know that they participate in the OSLC working group.  But I would like to see more public statements.

Iron

but certainly requirements, product targets, SW impact of other disciplines shall be understood and represented in the product definition

Iron

well eventually it is more than 3 things

Iron

about :

What are the top three things that embedded designers need to know here?

Iron

I noticed recently that PTC acquired MKS recently.  I would expect that PTC will eventually try to develop an integrated change management system/work flow between electro-mechanical and SW.  But I expect that a good integration will take a couple years to work out.

Iron

this is web technology and involve a community of different customers

called OSLC

Iron

for instance we do currently consider new technologies to offer data mapping to build a virtual common data model that includes SW artifacts

Iron

right

PLM - ALM interroperability is something we are addressing in some extends

Iron

Does the Siemens PLM system enable compliance with IEC 61508 ?

Blogger

Pascal, leongp1 asks a good question below about integrations between PLM and ALM systems commonly used for embedded software. Could you address?

 

Blogger

I have been looking into PLM systems, and although I believe that the PLM should be a bridge between the electro-mechanical development and SW development, it seems that none of the PLM solutions provide anything close to the capabilities of an Application Lifecycle Management tool.  Do the PLM companies have any good recommendations/integrations to get a good workflow between PLM and ALM?  Both PLM and ALM solutions will typically have some "change management" system at it's heart ... so how would you get the two of them to work together to get the "single version of the truth"?

Iron

The topic of our discussion is analogus to a project converting analog (mechanical) to digital (embedded system) back to analog (mecanical). Our world of digitalization seems wanting to separate both arena. I have been asked if I am an analog eng or digital but this embedded topic needs to find a central arena so both can envision the final product, together. I wonder these executives know this when making a decision.

This is where a systems engineer comes in but often the product design specification fails tieing both arena. I hope today's discussion identify new platform for specifying embedded project.

Silver

What are the top three things that embedded designers need to know here?

Blogger

No error messages, no indication of anything wrong or blocked. Just silence. You guys should have used a more reliable technology like LiveMeeting.

Iron

Since this is such a great audio interview, we are extending the audio streaming portion of the radio show 10 minutes to the 40 minute mark. Pascal will join the instant chat stream after that ends.

Blogger

MPORTANT NOTE: IF YOUR COMPANY BLOCKS LIVE STREAMING AUDIO -- as a number of companies do -- YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO HEAR THE BROADCAST LIVE when it begins at 2pm eastern, in a streaming audio player which appears at the top of this page at that time.  You will have to come back and access it as an archive. The archive is posted later today. However, you may want to still stick around for the live chat with our guest; he will dive in at the 2;30 pm EDT mark.

Blogger

Can't hear anything either.  Anyone know a troubleshooting section?

Iron

Don't hear a thing...

 

Iron

Great point about incompatible aspects w/in and throughout the design process, forcing a need for a methodology to resolve these challenges.

Blogger

stephen from ga  hello

Iron

Hello, this Sakada from NuWaves Engineering...am here for DN Radio

 

What is a good definition of "embedded systems" and "embedded design"?  And how is rapid-prototyping and 3-D printing going to figure into the design and prototyping process, now and in the future?

Iron

What preparation is needed... EE degree or ME degree or specialized Mechatronics degree? Which schools are doing a good job in preparing students for real projects?

Iron

MPORTANT NOTE: IF YOUR COMPANY BLOCKS LIVE STREAMING AUDIO -- as a number of companies do -- YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO HEAR THE BROADCAST LIVE when it begins at 2pm eastern, in a streaming audio player which appears at the top of this page at that time.  You will have to come back and access it as an archive. The archive is posted later today. However, you may want to still stick around for the live chat with our guest; he will dive in at the 2;30 pm EDT mark.

Blogger

Welcome. Today's radio show begins at 2pm eastern. Please type in your questions at the best ones will be fed to our guest during the first 30 minutes, which constitutes the live RADIO discussion portion of the show. At 2:30 pm, our guest, Pascal Vera of Siemens, will come onto this instant chat and answer your questions directly.

Blogger

hello for all and i am pleased to attend with you

Iron


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