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TenCent
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3 D Systems - what they really can provide to Industries
TenCent   12/3/2012 10:34:25 PM
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I am new to this Forum/Website

I am struggeling to find out, what 3D Systems can really provide for the Markets,

what they can print, being worth and usefull to different Industries.

Anybody can give me some Informations about this?

Much appreciated

Rob Spiegel
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Re: Widespread consolidation?
Rob Spiegel   1/17/2012 2:59:06 PM
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Yes Kevin, and sometimes its a mixed bag. The Feds fought AT&T's attempt to buy T-Mobile because it would reduce the number of carriers in the mobile phone market. But it looked like AT&T was buying airwave frequencies rather than marketshare. The Feds didn't see it that way. So, in a rare move they blocked the acquisition.

Kevin
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Re: Widespread consolidation?
Kevin   1/17/2012 2:49:01 PM
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Rob,

Sadly, it is typically BAD for the customer when a company makes a lot of acquisitions.  This is more even more true if they are mainly aimed at grabbing customers from the acquired companies, vs. aquiring better technology.  The reason is that the company becomes more of a monopoly, increases prices, and there is less competition and less diversity in the marketplace.

Ann R. Thryft
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Re: Widespread consolidation?
Ann R. Thryft   12/5/2011 12:05:19 PM
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In addition to the materials and other resources and improved reach, something to consider here is the different types of business that these companies pursue. Low-end desktop printers are one thing, and engineering prototypes are another, especially the fit and form but not function type of model. But high-end laser sintering for small volumes in aircraft and automotive use is quite another and draws different customers.  


JimT@Future-Product-Innovations
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Re: Widespread consolidation?
JimT@Future-Product-Innovations   12/1/2011 12:37:55 AM
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While 3D systems inc. essentially invented the SLA, and has been the pioneer in the rapid prototyping arena, I did not realize Z-corp was a major player.  I would have put Objet as a solid number 2, even postured to overtake 3D system due to their superior resolution alone. Those 2, (3D & Objet) are by far the best I’ve used.  Thinking back, I don’t think I’ve EVER used a Z-corp printer.  It sure will be interesting to see if the new merger places them solidly in the market in front of Objet for good.

Rob Spiegel
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Re: Widespread consolidation?
Rob Spiegel   11/30/2011 2:16:40 PM
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With that many acquistions, I would guess some of the deals were made to grab marketshare and new customers. In those cases, the deal could be a big gain for the customer that now has a more robust entity as their 3D printer vendor.

Ann R. Thryft
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Re: Widespread consolidation?
Ann R. Thryft   11/30/2011 11:21:33 AM
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Aside from more R&D dollars, better reseller channels, and stronger alliances with software vendors, I suspect the consolidations can also give vendors access to what's become a very wide range of available materials for the somewhat less wide range of available processes. So acquiring key technologies--manufacturing processes and materials--seems like it would also be a main driver.

 


Beth Stackpole
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Re: Widespread consolidation?
Beth Stackpole   11/30/2011 7:38:36 AM
@TJ: I totally agree that consolidation at this rate can be alarming, especially to companies having coughed up big bucks for printers. But most of those acquisitions weren't on the scale of this most recent Z Corp purchase. They were much smaller--many more about picking up key technologies rather than adding new models to a printer line. And truthfully, to date, there has been little overlap between any of the product lines of all the acquired companies.

That said, you never know what changes an acquisition can bring, so I guess only time will tell.

 

TJ McDermott
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Re: Widespread consolidation?
TJ McDermott   11/29/2011 9:59:04 PM
23 acquisitions in 2 years?  Boy oh boy, those early adopters who saw their technical support consumed in this manner must have been rather nervous.  To have your careful research be bought out, and the model you pick dropped in product-line consolidation would be disappointing to say the least.

A company may be trying to grow itself to the next level, but that rate is bound to alienate customers.

Beth Stackpole
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Re: Widespread consolidation?
Beth Stackpole   11/29/2011 4:19:32 PM
I don't think we're at the commodization stage yet. I think there is tons of interest and the technologies are really coming together, but to take it to the next step, these companies need more R&D dollars, better reseller channels, and stronger alliances with software vendors like the CAD guys. That's what this particular acquisition is all about. To your point, Alex, the acquisition expands their market sectors, grows their reseller channels, and broadens their product line with new capabilities, particularly around color.

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